From pricetaylor at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 13:49:31 2022
From: pricetaylor at gmail.com (Price Taylor)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 11:49:31 -0700
Subject: [Trombone-l] [EXTERNAL] Older Holton Ball Sockets
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR2201MB1460EDF24A9458FC57285703D58C9@BN6PR2201MB1460.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
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 <BN6PR2201MB1460EDF24A9458FC57285703D58C9@BN6PR2201MB1460.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
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If you know a local repair person, that would be your best bet.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 4:28 PM Danner, Mearl via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Maybe this. They're 2-56
> https://www.dubro.com/products/1-16-threaded-ball-links
>
>
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Chris
> Waage via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2022 5:59:31 PM
> To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL][Trombone-l] Older Holton Ball Sockets
>
> Howdy!
>
> I recently picked up what I estimate to be an early to mid-1980s Holton
> TR-156.  It's in decent shape, other than the usuals - needs a slide
> alignment, cleaning, and replacement ball sockets for the rotor linkage.
>
> Years ago, I was able to get some replacements through Holton, but I'm
> pretty sure that won't happen now since they've been assimilated into the
> Steinway Borg.
>
> I've seen comments that people have used Du-Bro R/C aircraft parts, but so
> far I have had no luck finding the right size.  I have a set of 4-40 Du-Bro
> Ball Sockets (884), and they are too big.
>
> Any suggestions on the right size, or a source for the old ball sockets?
> I've tried Votaw and they're sold out.  I don't have access to Allied since
> I'm not a repair person.
>
> Modifying them to mini-ball links isn't really an option, as I don't want
> to spend that much money on the instrument.
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
>
> Chris
>
> --
> *Chris Waage, DMA                      *
>         Freelance teacher, clinician. and low brass artist
>
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From horton.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 22:23:12 2022
From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 23:23:12 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Very interesting trombone glimpse
Message-ID: <CAAMjx4Ato_PY3830L1+RzgiRg+x7MsHMqG1c8ZjjQd3RO0GY5w@mail.gmail.com>

On TCM a night or so ago,
Man with a Movie Camera (1929)
At 3:27:

https://youtu.be/cGYZ5847FiI

Another glimpse a few seconds earlier.

Looks like a "bass trombone" of the day.  Anybody recognize it?

From horton.raymond at gmail.com  Mon Aug  8 20:23:41 2022
From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 21:23:41 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?
Message-ID: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>

Am I right that this seems suspicious?

Hello, I'm Mrs Sandra Cowell from Paris,France.during my search
for trombone lesson teacher that would always take my son ( Chris is
very good speak English ) and I found you..Your advert looks great and
it is very okay to me since you specialize in the area i am seeking
for him... My Son  would be coming to US (your city) by next week for
a period of time and with his friend for 2 Months.he is just a
beginner and he is 16 years old, i want you to help me teach lesson
during his stay. So, kindly let me know your charges cost per week's
,in order for me to arrange for his payment before he travels down to
your side. I have also made preparation for his personal equipment he
will be using privately at home after the lesson during his stay.

Please Advise back on;

(1). your charges per 1 hour twice a week for 2 Months?

(2).The Day and time you will be available to teach him  During the week?

(3).Tuition address

??????
Raymond Horton
Composer/Arranger 
Minister of Music, 
Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016

From emrose79 at sonic.net  Mon Aug  8 20:26:50 2022
From: emrose79 at sonic.net (emrose79 at sonic.net)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 18:26:50 -0700
Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?
In-Reply-To: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>
References: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <064701d8ab8f$1a624330$4f26c990$@sonic.net>

It is. I've received those and I'm not a teacher!
Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> On Behalf Of Raymond Horton via Trombone-l
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 18:24
To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?

Am I right that this seems suspicious?

Hello, I'm Mrs Sandra Cowell from Paris,France.during my search for trombone lesson teacher that would always take my son ( Chris is very good speak English ) and I found you..Your advert looks great and it is very okay to me since you specialize in the area i am seeking for him... My Son  would be coming to US (your city) by next week for a period of time and with his friend for 2 Months.he is just a beginner and he is 16 years old, i want you to help me teach lesson during his stay. So, kindly let me know your charges cost per week's ,in order for me to arrange for his payment before he travels down to your side. I have also made preparation for his personal equipment he will be using privately at home after the lesson during his stay.

Please Advise back on;

(1). your charges per 1 hour twice a week for 2 Months?

(2).The Day and time you will be available to teach him  During the week?

(3).Tuition address

??????
Raymond Horton
Composer/Arranger
Minister of Music,
Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016 _______________________________________________
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Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
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From drbach6 at aol.com  Mon Aug  8 20:32:39 2022
From: drbach6 at aol.com (LINDA LANDIS)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 21:32:39 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?
In-Reply-To: <064701d8ab8f$1a624330$4f26c990$@sonic.net>
References: <064701d8ab8f$1a624330$4f26c990$@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <AEE5D6E3-373E-4990-8D89-A86F48D650DB@aol.com>

Scam. I got one from Begium once. Perfect grammatical English except for one long sentence. 

I?d avoid responding.  I never responded.

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Aug 8, 2022, at 9:27 PM, emrose79--- via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> ?It is. I've received those and I'm not a teacher!
> Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> On Behalf Of Raymond Horton via Trombone-l
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 18:24
> To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?
> 
> Am I right that this seems suspicious?
> 
> Hello, I'm Mrs Sandra Cowell from Paris,France.during my search for trombone lesson teacher that would always take my son ( Chris is very good speak English ) and I found you..Your advert looks great and it is very okay to me since you specialize in the area i am seeking for him... My Son  would be coming to US (your city) by next week for a period of time and with his friend for 2 Months.he is just a beginner and he is 16 years old, i want you to help me teach lesson during his stay. So, kindly let me know your charges cost per week's ,in order for me to arrange for his payment before he travels down to your side. I have also made preparation for his personal equipment he will be using privately at home after the lesson during his stay.
> 
> Please Advise back on;
> 
> (1). your charges per 1 hour twice a week for 2 Months?
> 
> (2).The Day and time you will be available to teach him  During the week?
> 
> (3).Tuition address
> 
> ??????
> Raymond Horton
> Composer/Arranger
> Minister of Music,
> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016 _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
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> 
> 
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From jobriant at garlic.com  Mon Aug  8 20:47:16 2022
From: jobriant at garlic.com (jobriant at garlic.com)
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 18:47:16 -0700
Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?
In-Reply-To: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>
References: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4868866d4e16e9c280a94409ff325cb9@garlic.com>



It's a scam, through and through.

If you respond with a price, the next email they send will be to verify 
that since they have received a certified check from a US Bank, can they 
pay you using that? The amount, of course, will be substantially more 
than you're asking, but they'll trust you to send them a ceritified 
check for the difference. Only later, when you try to deposit their 
"Ceritified Check," will you learn that it's counterfeit.

Jim O'Briant, Gilroy, CA
Music Director / Staff Arranger
The Pacific Brass Band
www.PacificBrassBand.org [1]

On 2022-08-08 6:23 pm, Raymond Horton via Trombone-l wrote:

> Am I right that this seems suspicious?
> 
> Hello, I'm Mrs Sandra Cowell from Paris,France.during my search
> for trombone lesson teacher that would always take my son ( Chris is
> very good speak English ) and I found you..Your advert looks great and
> it is very okay to me since you specialize in the area i am seeking
> for him... My Son  would be coming to US (your city) by next week for
> a period of time and with his friend for 2 Months.he is just a
> beginner and he is 16 years old, i want you to help me teach lesson
> during his stay. So, kindly let me know your charges cost per week's
> ,in order for me to arrange for his payment before he travels down to
> your side. I have also made preparation for his personal equipment he
> will be using privately at home after the lesson during his stay.
> 
> Please Advise back on;
> 
> (1). your charges per 1 hour twice a week for 2 Months?
> 
> (2).The Day and time you will be available to teach him  During the 
> week?
> 
> (3).Tuition address
> 
> ------------
> Raymond Horton
> Composer/Arranger
> Minister of Music,
> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist,
> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org


Links:
------
[1] http://www.PacificBrassBand.org

From art at awtriggs.com  Tue Aug  9 04:14:28 2022
From: art at awtriggs.com (Art Triggs)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 05:14:28 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?
In-Reply-To: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>
References: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkwCrZ7Q-TMD8yG8=4s-+TqHBtBwT8ui-o0QP2uTr1stv6-ZQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is an old one, but its a scam.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 21:24 Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Am I right that this seems suspicious?
>
> Hello, I'm Mrs Sandra Cowell from Paris,France.during my search
> for trombone lesson teacher that would always take my son ( Chris is
> very good speak English ) and I found you..Your advert looks great and
> it is very okay to me since you specialize in the area i am seeking
> for him... My Son  would be coming to US (your city) by next week for
> a period of time and with his friend for 2 Months.he is just a
> beginner and he is 16 years old, i want you to help me teach lesson
> during his stay. So, kindly let me know your charges cost per week's
> ,in order for me to arrange for his payment before he travels down to
> your side. I have also made preparation for his personal equipment he
> will be using privately at home after the lesson during his stay.
>
> Please Advise back on;
>
> (1). your charges per 1 hour twice a week for 2 Months?
>
> (2).The Day and time you will be available to teach him  During the week?
>
> (3).Tuition address
>
> ??????
> Raymond Horton
> Composer/Arranger
> Minister of Music,
> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist,
> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>
-- 
Art Triggs
914-819-8432
art at awtriggs.com

From georgebutler3rd at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 03:09:39 2022
From: georgebutler3rd at gmail.com (George Butler)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:09:39 +0300
Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?
In-Reply-To: <CAHkwCrZ7Q-TMD8yG8=4s-+TqHBtBwT8ui-o0QP2uTr1stv6-ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>
 <CAHkwCrZ7Q-TMD8yG8=4s-+TqHBtBwT8ui-o0QP2uTr1stv6-ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGf8F+6S7jSAEaSXkwKZFSpkPYdLapxP_cf0NHH4e0nMtwXtGw@mail.gmail.com>

Someone please remind me of how this works:  "She" overpays Ray, and then
asks Ray for a refund of the overpayment?  In the meantime, she has had her
bank stop payment?

--George in Tallinn, Estonia

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 12:15 PM Art Triggs via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> This is an old one, but its a scam.
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 21:24 Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
> > Am I right that this seems suspicious?
> >
> > Hello, I'm Mrs Sandra Cowell from Paris,France.during my search
> > for trombone lesson teacher that would always take my son ( Chris is
> > very good speak English ) and I found you..Your advert looks great and
> > it is very okay to me since you specialize in the area i am seeking
> > for him... My Son  would be coming to US (your city) by next week for
> > a period of time and with his friend for 2 Months.he is just a
> > beginner and he is 16 years old, i want you to help me teach lesson
> > during his stay. So, kindly let me know your charges cost per week's
> > ,in order for me to arrange for his payment before he travels down to
> > your side. I have also made preparation for his personal equipment he
> > will be using privately at home after the lesson during his stay.
> >
> > Please Advise back on;
> >
> > (1). your charges per 1 hour twice a week for 2 Months?
> >
> > (2).The Day and time you will be available to teach him  During the week?
> >
> > (3).Tuition address
> >
> > ??????
> > Raymond Horton
> > Composer/Arranger
> > Minister of Music,
> > Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> > Retired Bass Trombonist,
> > Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
> > _______________________________________________
> > Trombone-l mailing list
> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >
> --
> Art Triggs
> 914-819-8432
> art at awtriggs.com
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>

From art at awtriggs.com  Wed Aug 10 03:15:05 2022
From: art at awtriggs.com (Art Triggs)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:15:05 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Scam?
In-Reply-To: <CAGf8F+6S7jSAEaSXkwKZFSpkPYdLapxP_cf0NHH4e0nMtwXtGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22640700-79E0-458F-BD6A-6B88B89F5B6D@gmail.com>
 <CAHkwCrZ7Q-TMD8yG8=4s-+TqHBtBwT8ui-o0QP2uTr1stv6-ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGf8F+6S7jSAEaSXkwKZFSpkPYdLapxP_cf0NHH4e0nMtwXtGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkwCraEF3AzG0oN00FK4ekLtHcQi+knp8YrPD7XZG9+wr1zbg@mail.gmail.com>

That?s pretty much it . There would be some type of overpayment, and the
victim would repay that, usually before the bad check ever clears the
banking system.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 04:09 George Butler <georgebutler3rd at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Someone please remind me of how this works:  "She" overpays Ray, and then
> asks Ray for a refund of the overpayment?  In the meantime, she has had her
> bank stop payment?
>
> --George in Tallinn, Estonia
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 12:15 PM Art Triggs via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>> This is an old one, but its a scam.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 21:24 Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <
>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Am I right that this seems suspicious?
>> >
>> > Hello, I'm Mrs Sandra Cowell from Paris,France.during my search
>> > for trombone lesson teacher that would always take my son ( Chris is
>> > very good speak English ) and I found you..Your advert looks great and
>> > it is very okay to me since you specialize in the area i am seeking
>> > for him... My Son  would be coming to US (your city) by next week for
>> > a period of time and with his friend for 2 Months.he is just a
>> > beginner and he is 16 years old, i want you to help me teach lesson
>> > during his stay. So, kindly let me know your charges cost per week's
>> > ,in order for me to arrange for his payment before he travels down to
>> > your side. I have also made preparation for his personal equipment he
>> > will be using privately at home after the lesson during his stay.
>> >
>> > Please Advise back on;
>> >
>> > (1). your charges per 1 hour twice a week for 2 Months?
>> >
>> > (2).The Day and time you will be available to teach him  During the
>> week?
>> >
>> > (3).Tuition address
>> >
>> > ??????
>> > Raymond Horton
>> > Composer/Arranger
>> > Minister of Music,
>> > Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
>> > Retired Bass Trombonist,
>> > Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> >
>
>
>> --
>> Art Triggs
>> 914-819-8432
>> art at awtriggs.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>
> --
Art Triggs
914-819-8432
art at awtriggs.com

From beldon.wade at comcast.net  Thu Aug 11 16:11:38 2022
From: beldon.wade at comcast.net (BELDON WADE)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 17:11:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Trombone-l] Hal Leonard's "ArrangeMe"
In-Reply-To: <CAAMjx4DZ19hMdMq8a7k0Dw3A-8G-2HQ0f1uOq1V_pCsXNthweA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAMjx4DZ19hMdMq8a7k0Dw3A-8G-2HQ0f1uOq1V_pCsXNthweA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1121826211.22644.1660252298231@connect.xfinity.com>

Glad to be back after an hiatis of several months.


Beldon.wade at comcast.net



> On 05/20/2022 4:55 PM Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> My composer daughter told me about this service. JW Pepper has a similar
> set up, but that costs $100 to join. Hal Leonard?s is free.  On it, I
> can attempt
> to sell arrangements of previously copyrighted tunes. HL Owns over 1
> million songs!  I have a ton of these on my computer for brass trio and church
> groups - Arrangements I have done ?under the radar?  over the years. There
> is also an easy utility to ask her permission for said arrangements for
> your own group.  And another framework for selling your own self published
> works for a higher royalty than you?ll get anywhere else.
> 
> I?ve decided to test the waters with a Brass trio arrangement of the ?main
> title? from ?Star Wars?. I?m selling it for the minimum amount allowed.
> Please feel free to check it out. It's a good arrangement! :
> 
> ArrangeMe - Self-Publish Your Music
> <https://www.arrangeme.com/title/A639145>
> 
> 
> Raymond Horton
> Composer/Arranger
> Minister of Music,
> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist,
> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org


From georgebutler3rd at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 02:26:37 2022
From: georgebutler3rd at gmail.com (George Butler)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 10:26:37 +0300
Subject: [Trombone-l] New student and dental issues
In-Reply-To: <CAL_NfzHd+Joyx0LNPWOEXDfBPQe9hWkR76RS+1nbjiYjf6r8zw@mail.gmail.com>
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I wrote this five weeks ago, saved it to my "drafts" folder, and promptly
forgot about it.  I apologize, Paul!  (Duh!)

For the longest time (mumble, mumble), I used the books of the late
Reginald H. Fink, a Remington student who was longtime professor of
trombone at Ohio University.  Most are published by Accura Music.  My favs:
--Introducing Legato
--Introducing the F-Attachment
--Advanced Musical Etudes:  112 rhythmic and melodic studies in bass clef,
based upon Blazhevich's *School in Clefs for Trombone*
https://www.accuramusic.com/collections/trombone-methods

You'll notice on that Accura page that there is an *Advanced Rhythm and
Technique Etudes* in bass clef, based upon the Blazhevich *Sequences*.
I've never looked at this, but I'd think that these would be too hard for a
tenth grader, even simplified without the C clefs.

Also note on the Accura page that there is a new edition of Donald
Hunsberger's *The Remington Warm-up Studies*.  Of course, you might just
teach these by rote, as Irvin Wagner does.

There is also a Reginald Fink collection of vocalises by Concone, Marchesi,
and Panofka called *Studies in Legato*, published by Carl Fischer.  These
are more advanced than the *Introducing Legato* mentioned above.

I know that many teachers dive right into Bordogni vocalises--what we used
to call *the Rochut book*--but I like to start with easier things:

--Giuseppe Concone, *40 Legato Studies*, Concone's opus 17, edited by
Donald Miller, published by Ensemble Publications.
http://www.enspub.com/pages/00/00540.htm
Piano accompaniment is available in various editions at IMSLP:

https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/f/fe/IMSLP336101-SIBLEY1802.22865.03f4-39087009887029score.pdf

--Heinrich Panofka, *24 Progressive Vocalises*.  Encore Music Publishers
(Wesley Jacobs, retired tubist of the Detroit Symphony) had these for
trombone, for trumpet (euphonium T.C.), and for tuba, as well as the piano
accompaniment.  They all seem to have gone out of print recently, but
perhaps a retailer might still have it on the shelves.  Freebie piano
accompaniment from IMSLP, if you'd like to see if it's worth tracking down:

https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/8/88/IMSLP321839-SIBLEY1802.22746.d4bf-39087009893944score.pdf

--*Bel Canto for Trombone*, edited by Robert Beringen, published by De
Haske, available in the U.S. from Hal Leonard dealers.  About a dozen
easier vocalises by Tosti, by Marchesi, by Concone.  The set includes the
piano book, the trombone booklet, and a CD with model tracks performed by
Ian Bousfield, and other tracks with piano only:
https://www.musicshopeurope.com/bel-canto-for-trombone-dhp%201084522--400?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dbel%2bcanto%2btrombone%26substoreid%3d

Interestingly, there is a euphonium version of this, the same vocalises (by
Tosti, by Marchesi, by Concone) that are set a third or so lower than the
trombone version, something that I sometimes find useful for a student.
The solo euphonium book is set in B-flat treble clef in the first half of
the book, and the same etudes printed in bass clef in the back of the
book.  Steven Mead is the soloist on the CD model tracks:
https://www.musicshopeurope.com/steven-mead-presents-bel-canto-for-euphonium-dhp%201064158--400
The piano accompaniment is available as a separate book:
https://www.musicshopeurope.com/steven-mead-presents-bel-canto-for-euphonium-dhp%201064164--401?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dbel%2bcanto%2beuphonium%2bpiano%2baccompaniment%26substoreid%3d

The Blazhevich of our time is Brad Edwards, professor of trombone at
Arizona State University.  My guys have not gotten very far in *The
Intermediate Trombonist*, but maybe they are a bit too young for it?
Anyway, take a look at the sample pages and decide for yourself:
https://www.trombonezone.org/books/

One admirable extra with Brad's work is that he usually has different
versions for tenor and for bass trombone.

My favorite of Brad's books, the one I'd take to a desert island, the one
that I use with my older students, is still *Simply Singing*.  See it, sing
it, buzz it, play it.  Very nice English and Irish folk tunes in
contrasting keys and styles, with nicely-done duets throughout.

I hope others can chime in, as I'm always on the search for new things for
the kids.

--George Butler, Lasnam?e Muusikakool, a children's music school in
Tallinn, Estonia
https://www.muusika.tln.edu.ee/est/opetajad/?opetaja=george-butler

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:08 PM Paul Johnston via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> I had mine taken out in college on Christmas break also in the mumbles,
> mumbles.  I remember having the teeth taken out on Monday, stitches out on
> Friday morning and I think I started facetime on the horn that evening or
> at least Saturday for sure.
>
> I think I would have the student double check with the oral surgeon or
> dentist (whomever does the extraction) to make sure.
>
> Paul
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 10:05 AM Ralph Whitfield via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > Been real quiet.  Here are some questions for the group.
> >
> > I have a new student who informed me that she is going to have her
> > wisdom teeth removed "soon".  She says next week but her grandmother
> > thinks later than that.  Regardless, how long should she abstain from
> > playing after having her wisdom teeth removed?  I have mine done over a
> > Christmas break back in the "mumble...mumble...mumble...s".  I don't
> > remember how long I laid off the horn.
> >
> > My thinking is a week, 2 at the most?  What are your thoughts?
> >
> > On a second topic...this particular student is around early high
> > school.  What method books should we be looking at?  I've had her as a
> > student for about 2 months now and we have been working on tone
> > production, air support and tonguing...all things that really doesn't
> > need music to play.  Now, I want to start some methods. What is the
> > current thinking for method books for this age?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Trombone-l mailing list
> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >
>
>
> --
> Paul Johnston
> OlllllllO
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>

From georgebutler3rd at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 02:28:47 2022
From: georgebutler3rd at gmail.com (George Butler)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 10:28:47 +0300
Subject: [Trombone-l] New student and dental issues
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Oops!  I meant to write, "I apologize, Ralph."  :-). (Don't get old, kids.)

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 10:26 AM George Butler <georgebutler3rd at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I wrote this five weeks ago, saved it to my "drafts" folder, and promptly
> forgot about it.  I apologize, Paul!  (Duh!)
>
> For the longest time (mumble, mumble), I used the books of the late
> Reginald H. Fink, a Remington student who was longtime professor of
> trombone at Ohio University.  Most are published by Accura Music.  My favs:
> --Introducing Legato
> --Introducing the F-Attachment
> --Advanced Musical Etudes:  112 rhythmic and melodic studies in bass clef,
> based upon Blazhevich's *School in Clefs for Trombone*
> https://www.accuramusic.com/collections/trombone-methods
>
> You'll notice on that Accura page that there is an *Advanced Rhythm and
> Technique Etudes* in bass clef, based upon the Blazhevich *Sequences*.
> I've never looked at this, but I'd think that these would be too hard for a
> tenth grader, even simplified without the C clefs.
>
> Also note on the Accura page that there is a new edition of Donald
> Hunsberger's *The Remington Warm-up Studies*.  Of course, you might just
> teach these by rote, as Irvin Wagner does.
>
> There is also a Reginald Fink collection of vocalises by Concone,
> Marchesi, and Panofka called *Studies in Legato*, published by Carl
> Fischer.  These are more advanced than the *Introducing Legato* mentioned
> above.
>
> I know that many teachers dive right into Bordogni vocalises--what we used
> to call *the Rochut book*--but I like to start with easier things:
>
> --Giuseppe Concone, *40 Legato Studies*, Concone's opus 17, edited by
> Donald Miller, published by Ensemble Publications.
> http://www.enspub.com/pages/00/00540.htm
> Piano accompaniment is available in various editions at IMSLP:
>
> https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/f/fe/IMSLP336101-SIBLEY1802.22865.03f4-39087009887029score.pdf
>
> --Heinrich Panofka, *24 Progressive Vocalises*.  Encore Music Publishers
> (Wesley Jacobs, retired tubist of the Detroit Symphony) had these for
> trombone, for trumpet (euphonium T.C.), and for tuba, as well as the piano
> accompaniment.  They all seem to have gone out of print recently, but
> perhaps a retailer might still have it on the shelves.  Freebie piano
> accompaniment from IMSLP, if you'd like to see if it's worth tracking down:
>
> https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/8/88/IMSLP321839-SIBLEY1802.22746.d4bf-39087009893944score.pdf
>
> --*Bel Canto for Trombone*, edited by Robert Beringen, published by De
> Haske, available in the U.S. from Hal Leonard dealers.  About a dozen
> easier vocalises by Tosti, by Marchesi, by Concone.  The set includes the
> piano book, the trombone booklet, and a CD with model tracks performed by
> Ian Bousfield, and other tracks with piano only:
>
> https://www.musicshopeurope.com/bel-canto-for-trombone-dhp%201084522--400?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dbel%2bcanto%2btrombone%26substoreid%3d
>
> Interestingly, there is a euphonium version of this, the same vocalises
> (by Tosti, by Marchesi, by Concone) that are set a third or so lower than
> the trombone version, something that I sometimes find useful for a
> student.  The solo euphonium book is set in B-flat treble clef in the first
> half of the book, and the same etudes printed in bass clef in the back of
> the book.  Steven Mead is the soloist on the CD model tracks:
> https://www.musicshopeurope.com/steven-mead-presents-bel-canto-for-euphonium-dhp%201064158--400
> The piano accompaniment is available as a separate book:
> https://www.musicshopeurope.com/steven-mead-presents-bel-canto-for-euphonium-dhp%201064164--401?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dbel%2bcanto%2beuphonium%2bpiano%2baccompaniment%26substoreid%3d
>
> The Blazhevich of our time is Brad Edwards, professor of trombone at
> Arizona State University.  My guys have not gotten very far in *The
> Intermediate Trombonist*, but maybe they are a bit too young for it?
> Anyway, take a look at the sample pages and decide for yourself:
> https://www.trombonezone.org/books/
>
> One admirable extra with Brad's work is that he usually has different
> versions for tenor and for bass trombone.
>
> My favorite of Brad's books, the one I'd take to a desert island, the one
> that I use with my older students, is still *Simply Singing*.  See it, sing
> it, buzz it, play it.  Very nice English and Irish folk tunes in
> contrasting keys and styles, with nicely-done duets throughout.
>
> I hope others can chime in, as I'm always on the search for new things for
> the kids.
>
> --George Butler, Lasnam?e Muusikakool, a children's music school in
> Tallinn, Estonia
> https://www.muusika.tln.edu.ee/est/opetajad/?opetaja=george-butler
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:08 PM Paul Johnston via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>> I had mine taken out in college on Christmas break also in the mumbles,
>> mumbles.  I remember having the teeth taken out on Monday, stitches out on
>> Friday morning and I think I started facetime on the horn that evening or
>> at least Saturday for sure.
>>
>> I think I would have the student double check with the oral surgeon or
>> dentist (whomever does the extraction) to make sure.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 10:05 AM Ralph Whitfield via Trombone-l <
>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Folks,
>> >
>> > Been real quiet.  Here are some questions for the group.
>> >
>> > I have a new student who informed me that she is going to have her
>> > wisdom teeth removed "soon".  She says next week but her grandmother
>> > thinks later than that.  Regardless, how long should she abstain from
>> > playing after having her wisdom teeth removed?  I have mine done over a
>> > Christmas break back in the "mumble...mumble...mumble...s".  I don't
>> > remember how long I laid off the horn.
>> >
>> > My thinking is a week, 2 at the most?  What are your thoughts?
>> >
>> > On a second topic...this particular student is around early high
>> > school.  What method books should we be looking at?  I've had her as a
>> > student for about 2 months now and we have been working on tone
>> > production, air support and tonguing...all things that really doesn't
>> > need music to play.  Now, I want to start some methods. What is the
>> > current thinking for method books for this age?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Ralph
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Paul Johnston
>> OlllllllO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>
>

From ralphjr at thewhitfields.com  Sat Aug 13 07:17:36 2022
From: ralphjr at thewhitfields.com (Ralph Whitfield Jr.)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 07:17:36 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] New student and dental issues
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George,

No need to apologize?I?m right up there with you!!

I don?t know where time went!

Ralph

Ralph W. Whitfield, Jr.
Bass Trombone, Gadsden Symphony Orchestra
Founder of Grand Avenue Brass
Owner of Rainbow Brass Music co.
"Trombonist by Nature, Engineer by Necessity!"

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 2:29 AM, George Butler <georgebutler3rd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Oops!  I meant to write, "I apologize, Ralph."  :-). (Don't get old, kids.)
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 10:26 AM George Butler <georgebutler3rd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wrote this five weeks ago, saved it to my "drafts" folder, and promptly forgot about it.  I apologize, Paul!  (Duh!)
>> 
>> For the longest time (mumble, mumble), I used the books of the late Reginald H. Fink, a Remington student who was longtime professor of trombone at Ohio University.  Most are published by Accura Music.  My favs:
>> --Introducing Legato
>> --Introducing the F-Attachment
>> --Advanced Musical Etudes:  112 rhythmic and melodic studies in bass clef, based upon Blazhevich's *School in Clefs for Trombone*
>> https://www.accuramusic.com/collections/trombone-methods
>> 
>> You'll notice on that Accura page that there is an *Advanced Rhythm and Technique Etudes* in bass clef, based upon the Blazhevich *Sequences*.  I've never looked at this, but I'd think that these would be too hard for a tenth grader, even simplified without the C clefs.
>> 
>> Also note on the Accura page that there is a new edition of Donald Hunsberger's *The Remington Warm-up Studies*.  Of course, you might just teach these by rote, as Irvin Wagner does.
>> 
>> There is also a Reginald Fink collection of vocalises by Concone, Marchesi, and Panofka called *Studies in Legato*, published by Carl Fischer.  These are more advanced than the *Introducing Legato* mentioned above.
>> 
>> I know that many teachers dive right into Bordogni vocalises--what we used to call *the Rochut book*--but I like to start with easier things:
>> 
>> --Giuseppe Concone, *40 Legato Studies*, Concone's opus 17, edited by Donald Miller, published by Ensemble Publications.
>> http://www.enspub.com/pages/00/00540.htm
>> Piano accompaniment is available in various editions at IMSLP:
>>  https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/f/fe/IMSLP336101-SIBLEY1802.22865.03f4-39087009887029score.pdf
>> 
>> --Heinrich Panofka, *24 Progressive Vocalises*.  Encore Music Publishers (Wesley Jacobs, retired tubist of the Detroit Symphony) had these for trombone, for trumpet (euphonium T.C.), and for tuba, as well as the piano accompaniment.  They all seem to have gone out of print recently, but perhaps a retailer might still have it on the shelves.  Freebie piano accompaniment from IMSLP, if you'd like to see if it's worth tracking down:  https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/8/88/IMSLP321839-SIBLEY1802.22746.d4bf-39087009893944score.pdf
>> 
>> --*Bel Canto for Trombone*, edited by Robert Beringen, published by De Haske, available in the U.S. from Hal Leonard dealers.  About a dozen easier vocalises by Tosti, by Marchesi, by Concone.  The set includes the piano book, the trombone booklet, and a CD with model tracks performed by Ian Bousfield, and other tracks with piano only:
>> https://www.musicshopeurope.com/bel-canto-for-trombone-dhp%201084522--400?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dbel%2bcanto%2btrombone%26substoreid%3d
>> 
>> Interestingly, there is a euphonium version of this, the same vocalises (by Tosti, by Marchesi, by Concone) that are set a third or so lower than the trombone version, something that I sometimes find useful for a student.  The solo euphonium book is set in B-flat treble clef in the first half of the book, and the same etudes printed in bass clef in the back of the book.  Steven Mead is the soloist on the CD model tracks:   https://www.musicshopeurope.com/steven-mead-presents-bel-canto-for-euphonium-dhp%201064158--400
>> The piano accompaniment is available as a separate book:  https://www.musicshopeurope.com/steven-mead-presents-bel-canto-for-euphonium-dhp%201064164--401?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dbel%2bcanto%2beuphonium%2bpiano%2baccompaniment%26substoreid%3d
>> 
>> The Blazhevich of our time is Brad Edwards, professor of trombone at Arizona State University.  My guys have not gotten very far in *The Intermediate Trombonist*, but maybe they are a bit too young for it?  
>> Anyway, take a look at the sample pages and decide for yourself: https://www.trombonezone.org/books/
>> 
>> One admirable extra with Brad's work is that he usually has different versions for tenor and for bass trombone.  
>> 
>> My favorite of Brad's books, the one I'd take to a desert island, the one that I use with my older students, is still *Simply Singing*.  See it, sing it, buzz it, play it.  Very nice English and Irish folk tunes in contrasting keys and styles, with nicely-done duets throughout.
>> 
>> I hope others can chime in, as I'm always on the search for new things for the kids.
>> 
>> --George Butler, Lasnam?e Muusikakool, a children's music school in Tallinn, Estonia
>> https://www.muusika.tln.edu.ee/est/opetajad/?opetaja=george-butler
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:08 PM Paul Johnston via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>> I had mine taken out in college on Christmas break also in the mumbles,
>>> mumbles.  I remember having the teeth taken out on Monday, stitches out on
>>> Friday morning and I think I started facetime on the horn that evening or
>>> at least Saturday for sure.
>>> 
>>> I think I would have the student double check with the oral surgeon or
>>> dentist (whomever does the extraction) to make sure.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 10:05 AM Ralph Whitfield via Trombone-l <
>>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Folks,
>>> >
>>> > Been real quiet.  Here are some questions for the group.
>>> >
>>> > I have a new student who informed me that she is going to have her
>>> > wisdom teeth removed "soon".  She says next week but her grandmother
>>> > thinks later than that.  Regardless, how long should she abstain from
>>> > playing after having her wisdom teeth removed?  I have mine done over a
>>> > Christmas break back in the "mumble...mumble...mumble...s".  I don't
>>> > remember how long I laid off the horn.
>>> >
>>> > My thinking is a week, 2 at the most?  What are your thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > On a second topic...this particular student is around early high
>>> > school.  What method books should we be looking at?  I've had her as a
>>> > student for about 2 months now and we have been working on tone
>>> > production, air support and tonguing...all things that really doesn't
>>> > need music to play.  Now, I want to start some methods. What is the
>>> > current thinking for method books for this age?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Ralph
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Paul Johnston
>>> OlllllllO
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Trombone-l mailing list
>>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org

From drbach6 at aol.com  Sat Aug 13 20:15:55 2022
From: drbach6 at aol.com (LINDA LANDIS)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 21:15:55 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] New student and dental issues
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I concur with George?s list. I use those books too.  Reg Fink wrote some really good stuff. I don?t think he ever got his book on basic rhythmic patterns written. He passed three years after I met and hung out with him at ITF ?93. He told me it was to be his next book because the students he was getting at OU couldn?t play basic rhythmic patterns.  Two of my students went to OU later, after he passed. I?ve worked with all my students on rhythm. It sure helps with sightreading.

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 8:18 AM, Ralph Whitfield Jr. via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> ?George,
> 
> No need to apologize?I?m right up there with you!!
> 
> I don?t know where time went!
> 
> Ralph
> 
> Ralph W. Whitfield, Jr.
> Bass Trombone, Gadsden Symphony Orchestra
> Founder of Grand Avenue Brass
> Owner of Rainbow Brass Music co.
> "Trombonist by Nature, Engineer by Necessity!"
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2022, at 2:29 AM, George Butler <georgebutler3rd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Oops!  I meant to write, "I apologize, Ralph."  :-). (Don't get old, kids.)
>> 
>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 10:26 AM George Butler <georgebutler3rd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I wrote this five weeks ago, saved it to my "drafts" folder, and promptly forgot about it.  I apologize, Paul!  (Duh!)
>>> 
>>> For the longest time (mumble, mumble), I used the books of the late Reginald H. Fink, a Remington student who was longtime professor of trombone at Ohio University.  Most are published by Accura Music.  My favs:
>>> --Introducing Legato
>>> --Introducing the F-Attachment
>>> --Advanced Musical Etudes:  112 rhythmic and melodic studies in bass clef, based upon Blazhevich's *School in Clefs for Trombone*
>>> https://www.accuramusic.com/collections/trombone-methods
>>> 
>>> You'll notice on that Accura page that there is an *Advanced Rhythm and Technique Etudes* in bass clef, based upon the Blazhevich *Sequences*.  I've never looked at this, but I'd think that these would be too hard for a tenth grader, even simplified without the C clefs.
>>> 
>>> Also note on the Accura page that there is a new edition of Donald Hunsberger's *The Remington Warm-up Studies*.  Of course, you might just teach these by rote, as Irvin Wagner does.
>>> 
>>> There is also a Reginald Fink collection of vocalises by Concone, Marchesi, and Panofka called *Studies in Legato*, published by Carl Fischer.  These are more advanced than the *Introducing Legato* mentioned above.
>>> 
>>> I know that many teachers dive right into Bordogni vocalises--what we used to call *the Rochut book*--but I like to start with easier things:
>>> 
>>> --Giuseppe Concone, *40 Legato Studies*, Concone's opus 17, edited by Donald Miller, published by Ensemble Publications.
>>> http://www.enspub.com/pages/00/00540.htm
>>> Piano accompaniment is available in various editions at IMSLP:
>>> https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/f/fe/IMSLP336101-SIBLEY1802.22865.03f4-39087009887029score.pdf
>>> 
>>> --Heinrich Panofka, *24 Progressive Vocalises*.  Encore Music Publishers (Wesley Jacobs, retired tubist of the Detroit Symphony) had these for trombone, for trumpet (euphonium T.C.), and for tuba, as well as the piano accompaniment.  They all seem to have gone out of print recently, but perhaps a retailer might still have it on the shelves.  Freebie piano accompaniment from IMSLP, if you'd like to see if it's worth tracking down:  https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/8/88/IMSLP321839-SIBLEY1802.22746.d4bf-39087009893944score.pdf
>>> 
>>> --*Bel Canto for Trombone*, edited by Robert Beringen, published by De Haske, available in the U.S. from Hal Leonard dealers.  About a dozen easier vocalises by Tosti, by Marchesi, by Concone.  The set includes the piano book, the trombone booklet, and a CD with model tracks performed by Ian Bousfield, and other tracks with piano only:
>>> https://www.musicshopeurope.com/bel-canto-for-trombone-dhp%201084522--400?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dbel%2bcanto%2btrombone%26substoreid%3d
>>> 
>>> Interestingly, there is a euphonium version of this, the same vocalises (by Tosti, by Marchesi, by Concone) that are set a third or so lower than the trombone version, something that I sometimes find useful for a student.  The solo euphonium book is set in B-flat treble clef in the first half of the book, and the same etudes printed in bass clef in the back of the book.  Steven Mead is the soloist on the CD model tracks:   https://www.musicshopeurope.com/steven-mead-presents-bel-canto-for-euphonium-dhp%201064158--400
>>> The piano accompaniment is available as a separate book:  https://www.musicshopeurope.com/steven-mead-presents-bel-canto-for-euphonium-dhp%201064164--401?returnurl=%2fsearch%3fq%3dbel%2bcanto%2beuphonium%2bpiano%2baccompaniment%26substoreid%3d
>>> 
>>> The Blazhevich of our time is Brad Edwards, professor of trombone at Arizona State University.  My guys have not gotten very far in *The Intermediate Trombonist*, but maybe they are a bit too young for it?  
>>> Anyway, take a look at the sample pages and decide for yourself: https://www.trombonezone.org/books/
>>> 
>>> One admirable extra with Brad's work is that he usually has different versions for tenor and for bass trombone.  
>>> 
>>> My favorite of Brad's books, the one I'd take to a desert island, the one that I use with my older students, is still *Simply Singing*.  See it, sing it, buzz it, play it.  Very nice English and Irish folk tunes in contrasting keys and styles, with nicely-done duets throughout.
>>> 
>>> I hope others can chime in, as I'm always on the search for new things for the kids.
>>> 
>>> --George Butler, Lasnam?e Muusikakool, a children's music school in Tallinn, Estonia
>>> https://www.muusika.tln.edu.ee/est/opetajad/?opetaja=george-butler
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:08 PM Paul Johnston via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>>> I had mine taken out in college on Christmas break also in the mumbles,
>>>> mumbles.  I remember having the teeth taken out on Monday, stitches out on
>>>> Friday morning and I think I started facetime on the horn that evening or
>>>> at least Saturday for sure.
>>>> 
>>>> I think I would have the student double check with the oral surgeon or
>>>> dentist (whomever does the extraction) to make sure.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 10:05 AM Ralph Whitfield via Trombone-l <
>>>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Been real quiet.  Here are some questions for the group.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a new student who informed me that she is going to have her
>>>>> wisdom teeth removed "soon".  She says next week but her grandmother
>>>>> thinks later than that.  Regardless, how long should she abstain from
>>>>> playing after having her wisdom teeth removed?  I have mine done over a
>>>>> Christmas break back in the "mumble...mumble...mumble...s".  I don't
>>>>> remember how long I laid off the horn.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My thinking is a week, 2 at the most?  What are your thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On a second topic...this particular student is around early high
>>>>> school.  What method books should we be looking at?  I've had her as a
>>>>> student for about 2 months now and we have been working on tone
>>>>> production, air support and tonguing...all things that really doesn't
>>>>> need music to play.  Now, I want to start some methods. What is the
>>>>> current thinking for method books for this age?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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