[Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
Dave Demko
demko61 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 30 10:59:24 CDT 2020
Indeed, I'm setting up an appointment with an allergist. That will help
tell me whether I do have a problem that alternate materials can solve. If
so, I've already collected useful info from several of you.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 6:13 PM Michael Sanders <michaelsanders6 at q.com>
wrote:
> I have found it interesting to learn about all the different materials
> from which mouthpieces can be manufactured. I get the impression the
> having one special made from any one of these materials would be like
> buying diamonds. A thought has occurred to me that has not been
> mentioned. Why not go to see an allergist? I'm sure he could help track
> down the cause of the allergic reaction and also treat it and it would be a
> whole lot cheaper.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> To: "Andy Fugate" <andy.fugate at gmail.com>, "Dave Demko" <demko61 at gmail.com>,
> "Bob Koester" <bobkoester at msn.com>
> Cc: "trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:05:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>
> I was told that silver plating has a bit of nickel in it, and many people
> have a nickel sensitivity. When I was having an issue with skin getting
> irritated, the doctor suggested taping a nickel ($.05 coin) to my arm with
> a bandage for 24 hours to see if it caused a reaction. Since the coin has a
> much higher nickel content, it would show if there was a nickel
> allergy/sensitivity in a short amount of time. Just don't get the coin area
> wet if you try this.
>
> Easiest way to see if that's the problem, rather than going through a
> round of allergy testing.
>
>
> ________________________________
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> Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:03 AM
> To: Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com>; Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>
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>
>
>
> This is interesting. I did a little quick research and it made me wonder
> if it's one of the chemicals used in the silver plating process that causes
> a bad reaction. If so, that might explain why for many of us gold plating
> solves the problem.
>
> Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
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> Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
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> Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>
> Andy, that's an interesting idea. I do have a Kelly lexan mouthpiece on the
> way for the sake of doing science by removing the exposure and seeing what
> happens. But in case I don't want to play on plastic mouthpieces, the nail
> polish idea would have the virtue of letting me use the mouthpieces I
> already own.
>
> Price, thanks for the info on Giddings stainless steel. The hornguys.com
> site has some details about the various Giddings models. And a seven-day
> trial period, just in case I run into the same problem with stainless that
> David Jones experienced.
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Would it be possible to test the allergy possibility by doing something
> > simple like applying clear fingernail polish to your existing mouthpiece
> > rim?
> >
> > -Andy (aka, Andy in OKC)
> >
> > On 7/26/20, 3:27 PM, "Trombone-l on behalf of Dave Demko via
> Trombone-l" <
> > trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org on behalf of
> > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
> > mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought.
> My
> > first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity
> > instead of,
> > maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
> > problems
> > that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
> > >
> > > https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
> > >
> > > The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
> > >
> > > Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
> > > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your
> > mouthpiece can
> > >> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
> > using
> > >> stainless blanks.
> > >>
> > >> beldon wade
> > >> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
> > >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
> > Switched
> > >> to gold and never looked back. Good luck.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
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> > >> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
> > >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
> > >> demko61 at gmail.com>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> > >> >
> > >> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can
> > try a
> > >> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of
> > those
> > >> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass
> > mouthpiece that
> > >> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps
> that
> > it's a
> > >> great mouthpiece as well)!
> > >> >
> > >> > Good luck!
> > >> >
> > >> > Jim Scott
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> behalf
> > of
> > >> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
> > >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > >> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> > >> >
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> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> >
> > >> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard
> > silver-plated
> > >> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that
> sometimes
> > fades
> > >> but
> > >> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold
> > sore. It
> > >> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the
> > web
> > >> have
> > >> > described as allergies.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I
> have a
> > >> stretch
> > >> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with
> silver
> > plate
> > >> > will make a difference.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Dave
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