From dan.seager at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 13:41:52 2020
From: dan.seager at gmail.com (Dan Seager)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:41:52 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] crazy high bone solo
In-Reply-To: <9B10167A-FDEA-49AE-A469-4897F7FB74E0@aol.com>
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	<CAOaZjkN10ZoQfeGUkvRzE=SNJukL1mi-U444kn9nzfZtoGAo=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<SN6PR02MB4669492D1EA8888181FC6C05DBF50@SN6PR02MB4669.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<9B10167A-FDEA-49AE-A469-4897F7FB74E0@aol.com>
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Yes, Dick Nash on all solos.  Wonderful playing on "Holly".  He's one of my
favorites for ballads - I never get tired of him!  Perfection.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:15 AM Linda Landis via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Definitely Dick Nash
>
>
> Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony,
> Private Teacher
>
> > On Mar 20, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'd say most likely Dick Nash given the age and the source.  Bass
> trombone probably George Roberts but maybe Kenny Shroyer.
> >
> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
> >
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> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:04 AM
> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] crazy high bone solo
> >
> > Great playing. I like the chart, too. As well as those just-right bass
> > trombone licks.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:48 PM Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <
> > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> >> at 40 seconds in.. Can anybody attach a name?
> >>
> >> Loose Caboose - Henry Mancini
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/a2o_BNveKz0
> >>
> >> Raymond Horton
> >> Composer, Arranger
> >> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> >> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> >> Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com
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From michaelsanders6 at q.com  Thu Jul  9 06:19:07 2020
From: michaelsanders6 at q.com (Michael Sanders)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Trombone-l] crazy high bone solo
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	<SN6PR02MB4669492D1EA8888181FC6C05DBF50@SN6PR02MB4669.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<9B10167A-FDEA-49AE-A469-4897F7FB74E0@aol.com>
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I have no idea who the soloist is but I wish I could tickle a trombone like that.

----- Original Message -----
From: "trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
To: "drbach6" <drbach6 at aol.com>
Cc: "trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 11:41:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] crazy high bone solo

Yes, Dick Nash on all solos.  Wonderful playing on "Holly".  He's one of my
favorites for ballads - I never get tired of him!  Perfection.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:15 AM Linda Landis via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Definitely Dick Nash
>
>
> Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony,
> Private Teacher
>
> > On Mar 20, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'd say most likely Dick Nash given the age and the source.  Bass
> trombone probably George Roberts but maybe Kenny Shroyer.
> >
> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
> >
> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message
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> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:04 AM
> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] crazy high bone solo
> >
> > Great playing. I like the chart, too. As well as those just-right bass
> > trombone licks.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:48 PM Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <
> > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> >> at 40 seconds in.. Can anybody attach a name?
> >>
> >> Loose Caboose - Henry Mancini
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/a2o_BNveKz0
> >>
> >> Raymond Horton
> >> Composer, Arranger
> >> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> >> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> >> Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com
> >> _______________________________________________
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From horton.raymond at gmail.com  Fri Jul 24 20:13:12 2020
From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:13:12 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Performance of arrangement of "Were You There"
Message-ID: <CAAMjx4DhhQtBpcXdJbo=zmqA6KwU8WLitW4wJephzK-FD+5vjA@mail.gmail.com>

My arrangement of the African-American Spiritual "Were You There" for
trombone and piano.
https://youtu.be/MaVUgRERawo

This is me playing it, by request, for a celebration of my Mother's 88th
birthday in 2004. (My excellent pianist daughter, Julianna, had injured her
left arm shortly before this, so my wife is playing the left hand part of
the challenging piano part.)

This arrangement is published by Cimarron Music:
https://www.cimarronmusic.com/were-you-there-9566

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com


From beldon.wade at comcast.net  Fri Jul 24 20:31:11 2020
From: beldon.wade at comcast.net (BELDON WADE)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:31:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Trombone-l] Performance of arrangement of "Were You There"
In-Reply-To: <CAAMjx4DhhQtBpcXdJbo=zmqA6KwU8WLitW4wJephzK-FD+5vjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAMjx4DhhQtBpcXdJbo=zmqA6KwU8WLitW4wJephzK-FD+5vjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1638257153.87440.1595640671493@connect.xfinity.com>

Love that song and have played it many times on Tenor Tbone

and each timer it stirs me deeply as your performance did.

beldon wade
> On 07/24/2020 9:13 PM Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> My arrangement of the African-American Spiritual "Were You There" for
> trombone and piano.
> https://youtu.be/MaVUgRERawo
> 
> This is me playing it, by request, for a celebration of my Mother's 88th
> birthday in 2004. (My excellent pianist daughter, Julianna, had injured her
> left arm shortly before this, so my wife is playing the left hand part of
> the challenging piano part.)
> 
> This arrangement is published by Cimarron Music:
> https://www.cimarronmusic.com/were-you-there-9566
> 
> Raymond Horton
> Composer, Arranger
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
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From demko61 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 25 16:35:08 2020
From: demko61 at gmail.com (Dave Demko)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 17:35:08 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
Message-ID: <CAOaZjkO2zVgnegRV7fesDKaTwbKJXD8BHYrT4HXrte1P_J8+6A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes fades but
never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore. It
doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web have
described as allergies.

I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a stretch
of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver plate
will make a difference.

Thanks,
Dave


From jscot at ucalgary.ca  Sat Jul 25 19:05:58 2020
From: jscot at ucalgary.ca (James L Scott)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 00:05:58 +0000
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
In-Reply-To: <CAOaZjkO2zVgnegRV7fesDKaTwbKJXD8BHYrT4HXrte1P_J8+6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOaZjkO2zVgnegRV7fesDKaTwbKJXD8BHYrT4HXrte1P_J8+6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <YQBPR0101MB1377029E4359D62EAAADADE5A1750@YQBPR0101MB1377.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece that has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that it's a great mouthpiece as well)!

Good luck!

Jim Scott
________________________________
From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

[?EXTERNAL]



Hi all,

Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes fades but
never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore. It
doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web have
described as allergies.

I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a stretch
of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver plate
will make a difference.

Thanks,
Dave
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From bobkoester at msn.com  Sun Jul 26 07:44:09 2020
From: bobkoester at msn.com (Bob Koester)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 12:44:09 +0000
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
In-Reply-To: <YQBPR0101MB1377029E4359D62EAAADADE5A1750@YQBPR0101MB1377.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <CAOaZjkO2zVgnegRV7fesDKaTwbKJXD8BHYrT4HXrte1P_J8+6A@mail.gmail.com>,
	<YQBPR0101MB1377029E4359D62EAAADADE5A1750@YQBPR0101MB1377.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <SN6PR02MB46696BF374BAA071F27952F1DB750@SN6PR02MB4669.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.  Switched to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.

Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial

Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to it.  If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message. You may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St. #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have originated at this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all emails leaving this email address.

________________________________
From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece that has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that it's a great mouthpiece as well)!

Good luck!

Jim Scott
________________________________
From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

[?EXTERNAL]



Hi all,

Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes fades but
never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore. It
doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web have
described as allergies.

I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a stretch
of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver plate
will make a difference.

Thanks,
Dave
_______________________________________________
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From beldon.wade at comcast.net  Sun Jul 26 08:58:05 2020
From: beldon.wade at comcast.net (BELDON WADE)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 09:58:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR02MB46696BF374BAA071F27952F1DB750@SN6PR02MB4669.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAOaZjkO2zVgnegRV7fesDKaTwbKJXD8BHYrT4HXrte1P_J8+6A@mail.gmail.com>,
	<YQBPR0101MB1377029E4359D62EAAADADE5A1750@YQBPR0101MB1377.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<SN6PR02MB46696BF374BAA071F27952F1DB750@SN6PR02MB4669.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <778662861.100430.1595771885580@connect.xfinity.com>

Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece can be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device using stainless blanks.

beldon wade
> On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.  Switched to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
> 
> Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
> 
> Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to it.  If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message. You may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St. #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have originated at this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all emails leaving this email address.
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
> To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> 
> Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece that has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that it's a great mouthpiece as well)!
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Jim Scott
> ________________________________
> From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
> To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> 
> [?EXTERNAL]
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
> mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes fades but
> never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore. It
> doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web have
> described as allergies.
> 
> I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a stretch
> of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver plate
> will make a difference.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> _______________________________________________
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From pricetaylor at gmail.com  Sun Jul 26 10:03:42 2020
From: pricetaylor at gmail.com (Price Taylor)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 08:03:42 -0700
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
In-Reply-To: <778662861.100430.1595771885580@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <CAOaZjkO2zVgnegRV7fesDKaTwbKJXD8BHYrT4HXrte1P_J8+6A@mail.gmail.com>
	<YQBPR0101MB1377029E4359D62EAAADADE5A1750@YQBPR0101MB1377.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<SN6PR02MB46696BF374BAA071F27952F1DB750@SN6PR02MB4669.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
	<778662861.100430.1595771885580@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CAO9DafcZ_k1ij4wj+EfHWRDHvpYvT7sM=yV2L4rEB4DVXNEzbw@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.

https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/

The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.

Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.





On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece can
> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device using
> stainless blanks.
>
> beldon wade
> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.  Switched
> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
> >
> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
> >
> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message
> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If you are
> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to
> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to it.
> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by
> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message. You
> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St.
> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior
> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have originated at
> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all emails
> leaving this email address.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
> demko61 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> >
> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a
> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those
> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece that
> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that it's a
> great mouthpiece as well)!
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Jim Scott
> > ________________________________
> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> >
> > [?EXTERNAL]
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes fades
> but
> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore. It
> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web have
> > described as allergies.
> >
> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
> stretch
> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver plate
> > will make a difference.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> > _______________________________________________
> > Trombone-l mailing list
> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Trombone-l mailing list
> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Trombone-l mailing list
> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>


From demko61 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 26 15:26:08 2020
From: demko61 at gmail.com (Dave Demko)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 16:26:08 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
In-Reply-To: <CAO9DafcZ_k1ij4wj+EfHWRDHvpYvT7sM=yV2L4rEB4DVXNEzbw@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity instead of,
maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like problems
that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
>
> https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
>
> The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
>
> Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece can
>> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device using
>> stainless blanks.
>>
>> beldon wade
>> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.  Switched
>> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
>> >
>> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>> >
>> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message
>> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If you are
>> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to
>> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to it.
>> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by
>> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message. You
>> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St.
>> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior
>> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have originated at
>> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all emails
>> leaving this email address.
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
>> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
>> demko61 at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>> >
>> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a
>> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those
>> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece that
>> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that it's a
>> great mouthpiece as well)!
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > Jim Scott
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
>> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>> >
>> > [?EXTERNAL]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
>> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes fades
>> but
>> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore. It
>> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web
>> have
>> > described as allergies.
>> >
>> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
>> stretch
>> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver plate
>> > will make a difference.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dave
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>
>


From pricetaylor at gmail.com  Sun Jul 26 16:34:40 2020
From: pricetaylor at gmail.com (Price Taylor)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 14:34:40 -0700
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
In-Reply-To: <CAOaZjkP6NWwUmG1YuJ06cyKgbDVBTooY9+nZuA9MGScaDejZ4g@mail.gmail.com>
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You should not have a problem with stainless steel.
Giddings.com, or eBay.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 1:26 PM Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
> mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
> first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity instead of,
> maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like problems
> that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
>>
>> https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
>>
>> The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
>>
>> Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece
>>> can be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device using
>>> stainless blanks.
>>>
>>> beldon wade
>>> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
>>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
>>> Switched to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
>>> >
>>> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>>> >
>>> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message
>>> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If you are
>>> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to
>>> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to it.
>>> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by
>>> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message. You
>>> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St.
>>> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior
>>> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have originated at
>>> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all emails
>>> leaving this email address.
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
>>> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
>>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
>>> demko61 at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>>> >
>>> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a
>>> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those
>>> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece that
>>> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that it's a
>>> great mouthpiece as well)!
>>> >
>>> > Good luck!
>>> >
>>> > Jim Scott
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
>>> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
>>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>>> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>>> >
>>> > [?EXTERNAL]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
>>> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
>>> fades but
>>> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore. It
>>> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web
>>> have
>>> > described as allergies.
>>> >
>>> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
>>> stretch
>>> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver plate
>>> > will make a difference.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Dave
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>>
>>


From david.t.jones at gmail.com  Sun Jul 26 19:27:10 2020
From: david.t.jones at gmail.com (David Jones)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 19:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
In-Reply-To: <CAO9DafcNBMG_uUe9UaHcQH5UJZKPhPNVjX8EiCNbh9RsdH6Y4g@mail.gmail.com>
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I've always heard that... And yet, the only mouthpiece I ever had an
allergy problem with was a Stainless Steel Giddings...  Go figure.

-David J.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 4:35 PM Price Taylor via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> You should not have a problem with stainless steel.
> Giddings.com, or eBay.
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 1:26 PM Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
> > mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
> > first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity instead
> of,
> > maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
> problems
> > that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
> >>
> >> https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
> >>
> >> The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
> >>
> >> Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
> >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece
> >>> can be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
> using
> >>> stainless blanks.
> >>>
> >>> beldon wade
> >>> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
> >>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
> >>> Switched to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
> >>> >
> >>> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
> >>> >
> >>> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message
> >>> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If
> you are
> >>> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to
> >>> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to
> it.
> >>> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us
> by
> >>> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message.
> You
> >>> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St.
> >>> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior
> >>> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have
> originated at
> >>> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all
> emails
> >>> leaving this email address.
> >>> >
> >>> > ________________________________
> >>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
> >>> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
> >>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
> >>> demko61 at gmail.com>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> >>> >
> >>> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a
> >>> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those
> >>> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece
> that
> >>> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that
> it's a
> >>> great mouthpiece as well)!
> >>> >
> >>> > Good luck!
> >>> >
> >>> > Jim Scott
> >>> > ________________________________
> >>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
> >>> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
> >>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >>> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> >>> >
> >>> > [?EXTERNAL]
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> >
> >>> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
> >>> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
> >>> fades but
> >>> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore.
> It
> >>> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web
> >>> have
> >>> > described as allergies.
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
> >>> stretch
> >>> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver
> plate
> >>> > will make a difference.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Dave
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > Trombone-l mailing list
> >>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> >>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > Trombone-l mailing list
> >>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> >>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > Trombone-l mailing list
> >>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> >>> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Trombone-l mailing list
> >>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> >>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >>>
> >>
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>


From pricetaylor at gmail.com  Sun Jul 26 20:33:10 2020
From: pricetaylor at gmail.com (Price Taylor)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:33:10 -0700
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
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Bummer, first I've heard of that.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 5:27 PM David Jones <david.t.jones at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've always heard that... And yet, the only mouthpiece I ever had an
> allergy problem with was a Stainless Steel Giddings...  Go figure.
>
> -David J.
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 4:35 PM Price Taylor via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>> You should not have a problem with stainless steel.
>> Giddings.com, or eBay.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 1:26 PM Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
>> > mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
>> > first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity instead
>> of,
>> > maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
>> problems
>> > that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
>> >>
>> >> The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
>> >>
>> >> Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
>> >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece
>> >>> can be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
>> using
>> >>> stainless blanks.
>> >>>
>> >>> beldon wade
>> >>> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
>> >>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
>> >>> Switched to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email
>> message
>> >>> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If
>> you are
>> >>> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert
>> to
>> >>> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to
>> it.
>> >>> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify
>> us by
>> >>> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message.
>> You
>> >>> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd
>> St.
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>> prior
>> >>> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have
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>> >>> > ________________________________
>> >>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
>> >>> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> >>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
>> >>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
>> >>> demko61 at gmail.com>
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try
>> a
>> >>> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of
>> those
>> >>> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece
>> that
>> >>> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that
>> it's a
>> >>> great mouthpiece as well)!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Good luck!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Jim Scott
>> >>> > ________________________________
>> >>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
>> >>> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> >>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
>> >>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> >>> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [?EXTERNAL]
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hi all,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
>> >>> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
>> >>> fades but
>> >>> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold
>> sore. It
>> >>> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web
>> >>> have
>> >>> > described as allergies.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
>> >>> stretch
>> >>> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver
>> plate
>> >>> > will make a difference.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >>> > Dave
>> >>> > _______________________________________________
>> >>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>> >>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> >>> >
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> >>> > _______________________________________________
>> >>> > Trombone-l mailing list
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>> >>> >
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
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From andy.fugate at gmail.com  Mon Jul 27 16:56:27 2020
From: andy.fugate at gmail.com (Andy Fugate)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:56:27 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
In-Reply-To: <CAOaZjkP6NWwUmG1YuJ06cyKgbDVBTooY9+nZuA9MGScaDejZ4g@mail.gmail.com>
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Would it be possible to test the allergy possibility by doing something simple like applying clear fingernail polish to your existing mouthpiece rim?

-Andy (aka, Andy in OKC)

?On 7/26/20, 3:27 PM, "Trombone-l on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l" <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org on behalf of trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

    Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
    mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
    first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity instead of,
    maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like problems
    that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?

    On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com> wrote:

    > All,
    >
    > Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
    >
    > https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
    >
    > The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
    >
    > Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
    > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
    >
    >> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece can
    >> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device using
    >> stainless blanks.
    >>
    >> beldon wade
    >> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
    >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.  Switched
    >> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
    >> >
    >> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
    >> >
    >> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message
    >> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If you are
    >> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to
    >> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to it.
    >> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by
    >> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message. You
    >> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St.
    >> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior
    >> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have originated at
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    >> leaving this email address.
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    >> > ________________________________
    >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
    >> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
    >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
    >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
    >> demko61 at gmail.com>
    >> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
    >> >
    >> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a
    >> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those
    >> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece that
    >> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that it's a
    >> great mouthpiece as well)!
    >> >
    >> > Good luck!
    >> >
    >> > Jim Scott
    >> > ________________________________
    >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
    >> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
    >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
    >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
    >> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
    >> >
    >> > [?EXTERNAL]
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Hi all,
    >> >
    >> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
    >> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes fades
    >> but
    >> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore. It
    >> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web
    >> have
    >> > described as allergies.
    >> >
    >> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
    >> stretch
    >> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver plate
    >> > will make a difference.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks,
    >> > Dave
    >> > _______________________________________________
    >> > Trombone-l mailing list
    >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
    >> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
    >> > _______________________________________________
    >> > Trombone-l mailing list
    >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
    >> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
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From oscar at oscarutterstrom.com  Tue Jul 28 05:40:12 2020
From: oscar at oscarutterstrom.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Oscar_Utterstr=C3=B6m?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:40:12 +0200
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
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Hi Dave!

AR Resonance mouthpieces out of Italy offer many different materials
including bronze, stainless steel, titanium and buffalo horn, apart from
regular silver and gold.
Antonio can also copy your mouthpiece if you are happy with what you have.
I am a dealer based in TN. Just let me know if you would like to try
something.
www.oscarutterstrom.com/ar-resonance
https://www.arresonance.com/mouthpieces

Best,
Oscar

www.oscarutterstrom.com


Den s?n 26 juli 2020 kl 22:27 skrev Dave Demko via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org>:

> Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
> mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
> first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity instead of,
> maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like problems
> that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
> >
> > https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
> >
> > The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
> >
> > Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
> > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece
> can
> >> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device using
> >> stainless blanks.
> >>
> >> beldon wade
> >> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
> >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
> Switched
> >> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
> >> >
> >> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
> >> >
> >> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message
> >> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If you
> are
> >> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to
> >> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to it.
> >> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us
> by
> >> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message.
> You
> >> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St.
> >> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior
> >> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have originated
> at
> >> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all emails
> >> leaving this email address.
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
> >> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
> >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
> >> demko61 at gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> >> >
> >> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try a
> >> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of those
> >> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece
> that
> >> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that
> it's a
> >> great mouthpiece as well)!
> >> >
> >> > Good luck!
> >> >
> >> > Jim Scott
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
> >> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
> >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> >> >
> >> > [?EXTERNAL]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
> >> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
> fades
> >> but
> >> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold sore.
> It
> >> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web
> >> have
> >> > described as allergies.
> >> >
> >> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
> >> stretch
> >> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver
> plate
> >> > will make a difference.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Dave
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Trombone-l mailing list
> >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> >> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Trombone-l mailing list
> >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> >> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Trombone-l mailing list
> >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> >> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>


From demko61 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 08:14:44 2020
From: demko61 at gmail.com (Dave Demko)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:14:44 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
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That's interesting, and not what I expected to hear. The conventional
wisdom seems to be that reactions to gold are far less common and that
stainless, a.k.a. surgical steel is reliably hypoallergenic. But it's
possible to be allergic to just about anything.

Dave D.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:27 PM David Jones <david.t.jones at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've always heard that... And yet, the only mouthpiece I ever had an
> allergy problem with was a Stainless Steel Giddings...  Go figure.
>
> -David J.
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 4:35 PM Price Taylor via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>> You should not have a problem with stainless steel.
>> Giddings.com, or eBay.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 1:26 PM Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
>> > mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
>> > first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity instead
>> of,
>> > maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
>> problems
>> > that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
>> >>
>> >> The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
>> >>
>> >> Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
>> >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your mouthpiece
>> >>> can be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
>> using
>> >>> stainless blanks.
>> >>>
>> >>> beldon wade
>> >>> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
>> >>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
>> >>> Switched to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email
>> message
>> >>> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If
>> you are
>> >>> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert
>> to
>> >>> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to
>> it.
>> >>> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify
>> us by
>> >>> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message.
>> You
>> >>> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd
>> St.
>> >>> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to
>> prior
>> >>> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have
>> originated at
>> >>> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all
>> emails
>> >>> leaving this email address.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ________________________________
>> >>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
>> >>> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> >>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
>> >>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
>> >>> demko61 at gmail.com>
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can try
>> a
>> >>> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of
>> those
>> >>> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass mouthpiece
>> that
>> >>> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that
>> it's a
>> >>> great mouthpiece as well)!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Good luck!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Jim Scott
>> >>> > ________________________________
>> >>> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of
>> >>> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> >>> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
>> >>> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>> >>> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [?EXTERNAL]
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hi all,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard silver-plated
>> >>> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
>> >>> fades but
>> >>> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold
>> sore. It
>> >>> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the web
>> >>> have
>> >>> > described as allergies.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
>> >>> stretch
>> >>> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver
>> plate
>> >>> > will make a difference.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >>> > Dave
>> >>> > _______________________________________________
>> >>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>> >>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> >>> >
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> >>> > _______________________________________________
>> >>> > Trombone-l mailing list
>> >>> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> >>> >
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> >>> > _______________________________________________
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From demko61 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 08:22:54 2020
From: demko61 at gmail.com (Dave Demko)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:22:54 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
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Andy, that's an interesting idea. I do have a Kelly lexan mouthpiece on the
way for the sake of doing science by removing the exposure and seeing what
happens. But in case I don't want  to play on plastic mouthpieces, the nail
polish idea would have the virtue of letting me use the mouthpieces I
already own.

Price, thanks for the info on Giddings stainless steel. The hornguys.com
site has some details about the various Giddings models. And a seven-day
trial period, just in case I run into the same problem with stainless that
David Jones experienced.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would it be possible to test the allergy possibility by doing something
> simple like applying clear fingernail polish to your existing mouthpiece
> rim?
>
> -Andy (aka, Andy in OKC)
>
> ?On 7/26/20, 3:27 PM, "Trombone-l on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l" <
> trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org on behalf of
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
>     mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
>     first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity
> instead of,
>     maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
> problems
>     that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
>
>     On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     > All,
>     >
>     > Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
>     >
>     > https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
>     >
>     > The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
>     >
>     > Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
>     > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your
> mouthpiece can
>     >> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
> using
>     >> stainless blanks.
>     >>
>     >> beldon wade
>     >> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
>     >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
> Switched
>     >> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
>     >> >
>     >> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>     >> >
>     >> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email
> message
>     >> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If
> you are
>     >> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit,
> convert to
>     >> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments
> to it.
>     >> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify
> us by
>     >> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this
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>     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf
> of
>     >> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
>     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
>     >> demko61 at gmail.com>
>     >> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>     >> >
>     >> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can
> try a
>     >> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of
> those
>     >> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass
> mouthpiece that
>     >> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that
> it's a
>     >> great mouthpiece as well)!
>     >> >
>     >> > Good luck!
>     >> >
>     >> > Jim Scott
>     >> > ________________________________
>     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf
> of
>     >> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
>     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>     >> >
>     >> > [?EXTERNAL]
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Hi all,
>     >> >
>     >> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard
> silver-plated
>     >> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
> fades
>     >> but
>     >> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold
> sore. It
>     >> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the
> web
>     >> have
>     >> > described as allergies.
>     >> >
>     >> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
>     >> stretch
>     >> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver
> plate
>     >> > will make a difference.
>     >> >
>     >> > Thanks,
>     >> > Dave
>     >> > _______________________________________________
>     >> > Trombone-l mailing list
>     >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>     >> >
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
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From bobkoester at msn.com  Tue Jul 28 10:03:44 2020
From: bobkoester at msn.com (Bob Koester)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:03:44 +0000
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
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This is interesting.  I did a little quick research and it made me wonder if it's one of the chemicals used in the silver plating process that causes a bad reaction.  If so, that might explain why for many of us gold plating solves the problem.

Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial

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________________________________
From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:22 AM
To: Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

Andy, that's an interesting idea. I do have a Kelly lexan mouthpiece on the
way for the sake of doing science by removing the exposure and seeing what
happens. But in case I don't want  to play on plastic mouthpieces, the nail
polish idea would have the virtue of letting me use the mouthpieces I
already own.

Price, thanks for the info on Giddings stainless steel. The hornguys.com
site has some details about the various Giddings models. And a seven-day
trial period, just in case I run into the same problem with stainless that
David Jones experienced.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would it be possible to test the allergy possibility by doing something
> simple like applying clear fingernail polish to your existing mouthpiece
> rim?
>
> -Andy (aka, Andy in OKC)
>
> ?On 7/26/20, 3:27 PM, "Trombone-l on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l" <
> trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org on behalf of
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
>     mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
>     first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity
> instead of,
>     maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
> problems
>     that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
>
>     On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     > All,
>     >
>     > Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
>     >
>     > https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
>     >
>     > The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
>     >
>     > Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
>     > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your
> mouthpiece can
>     >> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
> using
>     >> stainless blanks.
>     >>
>     >> beldon wade
>     >> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
>     >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
> Switched
>     >> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
>     >> >
>     >> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>     >> >
>     >> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email
> message
>     >> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If
> you are
>     >> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit,
> convert to
>     >> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments
> to it.
>     >> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify
> us by
>     >> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this
> message. You
>     >> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd
> St.
>     >> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to
> prior
>     >> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have
> originated at
>     >> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all
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>     >> leaving this email address.
>     >> >
>     >> > ________________________________
>     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf
> of
>     >> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
>     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
>     >> demko61 at gmail.com>
>     >> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>     >> >
>     >> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can
> try a
>     >> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of
> those
>     >> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass
> mouthpiece that
>     >> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that
> it's a
>     >> great mouthpiece as well)!
>     >> >
>     >> > Good luck!
>     >> >
>     >> > Jim Scott
>     >> > ________________________________
>     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf
> of
>     >> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
>     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>     >> >
>     >> > [?EXTERNAL]
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Hi all,
>     >> >
>     >> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard
> silver-plated
>     >> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
> fades
>     >> but
>     >> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold
> sore. It
>     >> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the
> web
>     >> have
>     >> > described as allergies.
>     >> >
>     >> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
>     >> stretch
>     >> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver
> plate
>     >> > will make a difference.
>     >> >
>     >> > Thanks,
>     >> > Dave
>     >> > _______________________________________________
>     >> > Trombone-l mailing list
>     >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>     >> >
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
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From jscot at ucalgary.ca  Tue Jul 28 11:05:07 2020
From: jscot at ucalgary.ca (James L Scott)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:05:07 +0000
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
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I was told that silver plating has a bit of nickel in it, and many people have a nickel sensitivity. When I was having an issue with skin getting irritated, the doctor suggested taping a nickel ($.05 coin) to my arm with a bandage for 24 hours to see if it caused a reaction. Since the coin has a much higher nickel content, it would show if there was a nickel allergy/sensitivity in a short amount of time. Just don't get the coin area wet if you try this.

Easiest way to see if that's the problem, rather than going through a round of allergy testing.


________________________________
From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:03 AM
To: Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com>; Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

[?EXTERNAL]



This is interesting.  I did a little quick research and it made me wonder if it's one of the chemicals used in the silver plating process that causes a bad reaction.  If so, that might explain why for many of us gold plating solves the problem.

Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial

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________________________________
From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:22 AM
To: Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

Andy, that's an interesting idea. I do have a Kelly lexan mouthpiece on the
way for the sake of doing science by removing the exposure and seeing what
happens. But in case I don't want  to play on plastic mouthpieces, the nail
polish idea would have the virtue of letting me use the mouthpieces I
already own.

Price, thanks for the info on Giddings stainless steel. The hornguys.com
site has some details about the various Giddings models. And a seven-day
trial period, just in case I run into the same problem with stainless that
David Jones experienced.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would it be possible to test the allergy possibility by doing something
> simple like applying clear fingernail polish to your existing mouthpiece
> rim?
>
> -Andy (aka, Andy in OKC)
>
> ?On 7/26/20, 3:27 PM, "Trombone-l on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l" <
> trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org on behalf of
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
>     mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
>     first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity
> instead of,
>     maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
> problems
>     that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
>
>     On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     > All,
>     >
>     > Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
>     >
>     > https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
>     >
>     > The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
>     >
>     > Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
>     > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your
> mouthpiece can
>     >> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
> using
>     >> stainless blanks.
>     >>
>     >> beldon wade
>     >> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
>     >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
> Switched
>     >> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
>     >> >
>     >> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>     >> >
>     >> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email
> message
>     >> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If
> you are
>     >> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit,
> convert to
>     >> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments
> to it.
>     >> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify
> us by
>     >> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this
> message. You
>     >> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd
> St.
>     >> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to
> prior
>     >> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have
> originated at
>     >> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all
> emails
>     >> leaving this email address.
>     >> >
>     >> > ________________________________
>     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf
> of
>     >> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
>     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
>     >> demko61 at gmail.com>
>     >> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>     >> >
>     >> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can
> try a
>     >> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of
> those
>     >> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass
> mouthpiece that
>     >> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that
> it's a
>     >> great mouthpiece as well)!
>     >> >
>     >> > Good luck!
>     >> >
>     >> > Jim Scott
>     >> > ________________________________
>     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf
> of
>     >> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
>     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>     >> >
>     >> > [?EXTERNAL]
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Hi all,
>     >> >
>     >> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard
> silver-plated
>     >> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
> fades
>     >> but
>     >> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold
> sore. It
>     >> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the
> web
>     >> have
>     >> > described as allergies.
>     >> >
>     >> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
>     >> stretch
>     >> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver
> plate
>     >> > will make a difference.
>     >> >
>     >> > Thanks,
>     >> > Dave
>     >> > _______________________________________________
>     >> > Trombone-l mailing list
>     >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>     >> >
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>     >> > _______________________________________________
>     >> > Trombone-l mailing list
>     >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>     >> >
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>     >> > Trombone-l mailing list
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>     >> >
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>     >>
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From michaelsanders6 at q.com  Tue Jul 28 17:13:14 2020
From: michaelsanders6 at q.com (Michael Sanders)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:13:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
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I have found it interesting to learn about all the different materials from which mouthpieces can be manufactured.  I get the impression the having one special made from any one of these materials would be like buying diamonds.  A thought has occurred to me that has not been mentioned.  Why not go to see an allergist?  I'm sure he could help track down the cause of the allergic reaction and also treat it and it would be a whole lot cheaper.

----- Original Message -----
From: "trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
To: "Andy Fugate" <andy.fugate at gmail.com>, "Dave Demko" <demko61 at gmail.com>, "Bob Koester" <bobkoester at msn.com>
Cc: "trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:05:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

I was told that silver plating has a bit of nickel in it, and many people have a nickel sensitivity. When I was having an issue with skin getting irritated, the doctor suggested taping a nickel ($.05 coin) to my arm with a bandage for 24 hours to see if it caused a reaction. Since the coin has a much higher nickel content, it would show if there was a nickel allergy/sensitivity in a short amount of time. Just don't get the coin area wet if you try this.

Easiest way to see if that's the problem, rather than going through a round of allergy testing.


________________________________
From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:03 AM
To: Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com>; Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

[?EXTERNAL]



This is interesting.  I did a little quick research and it made me wonder if it's one of the chemicals used in the silver plating process that causes a bad reaction.  If so, that might explain why for many of us gold plating solves the problem.

Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial

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From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:22 AM
To: Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy

Andy, that's an interesting idea. I do have a Kelly lexan mouthpiece on the
way for the sake of doing science by removing the exposure and seeing what
happens. But in case I don't want  to play on plastic mouthpieces, the nail
polish idea would have the virtue of letting me use the mouthpieces I
already own.

Price, thanks for the info on Giddings stainless steel. The hornguys.com
site has some details about the various Giddings models. And a seven-day
trial period, just in case I run into the same problem with stainless that
David Jones experienced.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would it be possible to test the allergy possibility by doing something
> simple like applying clear fingernail polish to your existing mouthpiece
> rim?
>
> -Andy (aka, Andy in OKC)
>
> ?On 7/26/20, 3:27 PM, "Trombone-l on behalf of Dave Demko via Trombone-l" <
> trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org on behalf of
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
>     mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought. My
>     first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity
> instead of,
>     maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
> problems
>     that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
>
>     On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     > All,
>     >
>     > Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
>     >
>     > https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
>     >
>     > The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
>     >
>     > Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
>     > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your
> mouthpiece can
>     >> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
> using
>     >> stainless blanks.
>     >>
>     >> beldon wade
>     >> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
>     >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
> Switched
>     >> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
>     >> >
>     >> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>     >> >
>     >> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email
> message
>     >> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If
> you are
>     >> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit,
> convert to
>     >> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments
> to it.
>     >> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify
> us by
>     >> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this
> message. You
>     >> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd
> St.
>     >> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to
> prior
>     >> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have
> originated at
>     >> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all
> emails
>     >> leaving this email address.
>     >> >
>     >> > ________________________________
>     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf
> of
>     >> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
>     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
>     >> demko61 at gmail.com>
>     >> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>     >> >
>     >> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can
> try a
>     >> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of
> those
>     >> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass
> mouthpiece that
>     >> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps that
> it's a
>     >> great mouthpiece as well)!
>     >> >
>     >> > Good luck!
>     >> >
>     >> > Jim Scott
>     >> > ________________________________
>     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf
> of
>     >> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
>     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
>     >> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>     >> >
>     >> > [?EXTERNAL]
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Hi all,
>     >> >
>     >> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard
> silver-plated
>     >> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that sometimes
> fades
>     >> but
>     >> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold
> sore. It
>     >> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the
> web
>     >> have
>     >> > described as allergies.
>     >> >
>     >> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I have a
>     >> stretch
>     >> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with silver
> plate
>     >> > will make a difference.
>     >> >
>     >> > Thanks,
>     >> > Dave
>     >> > _______________________________________________
>     >> > Trombone-l mailing list
>     >> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>     >> >
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>     >> > _______________________________________________
>     >> > Trombone-l mailing list
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>     >> >
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From demko61 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 10:59:24 2020
From: demko61 at gmail.com (Dave Demko)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:59:24 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
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Indeed, I'm setting up an appointment with an allergist. That will help
tell me whether I do have a problem that alternate materials can solve. If
so, I've already collected useful info from several of you.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 6:13 PM Michael Sanders <michaelsanders6 at q.com>
wrote:

> I have found it interesting to learn about all the different materials
> from which mouthpieces can be manufactured.  I get the impression the
> having one special made from any one of these materials would be like
> buying diamonds.  A thought has occurred to me that has not been
> mentioned.  Why not go to see an allergist?  I'm sure he could help track
> down the cause of the allergic reaction and also treat it and it would be a
> whole lot cheaper.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> To: "Andy Fugate" <andy.fugate at gmail.com>, "Dave Demko" <demko61 at gmail.com>,
> "Bob Koester" <bobkoester at msn.com>
> Cc: "trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:05:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>
> I was told that silver plating has a bit of nickel in it, and many people
> have a nickel sensitivity. When I was having an issue with skin getting
> irritated, the doctor suggested taping a nickel ($.05 coin) to my arm with
> a bandage for 24 hours to see if it caused a reaction. Since the coin has a
> much higher nickel content, it would show if there was a nickel
> allergy/sensitivity in a short amount of time. Just don't get the coin area
> wet if you try this.
>
> Easiest way to see if that's the problem, rather than going through a
> round of allergy testing.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Bob
> Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:03 AM
> To: Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com>; Dave Demko <demko61 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>
> [?EXTERNAL]
>
>
>
> This is interesting.  I did a little quick research and it made me wonder
> if it's one of the chemicals used in the silver plating process that causes
> a bad reaction.  If so, that might explain why for many of us gold plating
> solves the problem.
>
> Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
>
> Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email message
> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.  If you are
> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to
> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments to it.
> If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by
> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this message. You
> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West 83rd St.
> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to prior
> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have originated at
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> leaving this email address.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Dave
> Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:22 AM
> To: Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com>
> Cc: Bob Koester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
>
> Andy, that's an interesting idea. I do have a Kelly lexan mouthpiece on the
> way for the sake of doing science by removing the exposure and seeing what
> happens. But in case I don't want  to play on plastic mouthpieces, the nail
> polish idea would have the virtue of letting me use the mouthpieces I
> already own.
>
> Price, thanks for the info on Giddings stainless steel. The hornguys.com
> site has some details about the various Giddings models. And a seven-day
> trial period, just in case I run into the same problem with stainless that
> David Jones experienced.
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Fugate <andy.fugate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Would it be possible to test the allergy possibility by doing something
> > simple like applying clear fingernail polish to your existing mouthpiece
> > rim?
> >
> > -Andy (aka, Andy in OKC)
> >
> > ?On 7/26/20, 3:27 PM, "Trombone-l on behalf of Dave Demko via
> Trombone-l" <
> > trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org on behalf of
> > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> >     Thanks for the useful information, folks. There are more options for
> >     mouthpieces made from alternate materials than I initially thought.
> My
> >     first step is to determine whether I have a allergy/sensitivity
> > instead of,
> >     maybe, a wound that stays irritated. Has anybody seen allergy-like
> > problems
> >     that differ from the typical histamine reaction: rash, swelling?
> >
> >     On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >     > All,
> >     >
> >     > Check Giddings and eBay for Giddings.
> >     >
> >     > https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/
> >     >
> >     > The offerings have a "most like Bach 4G", etc.
> >     >
> >     > Also sold by horn guys, some at sale prices there.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 6:59 AM BELDON WADE via Trombone-l <
> >     > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >> Stainless steel works well in earring posts, no doubt your
> > mouthpiece can
> >     >> be reproduced by a machine shop having a vertical milling device
> > using
> >     >> stainless blanks.
> >     >>
> >     >> beldon wade
> >     >> > On 07/26/2020 8:44 AM Bob Koester via Trombone-l <
> >     >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >     >> >
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Many years ago I had a bad allergic reaction to silver plate.
> > Switched
> >     >> to gold and never looked back.  Good luck.
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Notice:  This e-mail message and any attachment to this email
> > message
> >     >> contain confidential information that my be legally privileged.
> If
> > you are
> >     >> not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit,
> > convert to
> >     >> hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this email or any attachments
> > to it.
> >     >> If you have received this email in error, please immediately
> notify
> > us by
> >     >> return email or by telephone at 913-341-7108 and delete this
> > message. You
> >     >> may also notify us by surface mail to MSI Financial, 3965 West
> 83rd
> > St.
> >     >> #114, Prairie Village, KS  66208.  Forwarded messages, replies to
> > prior
> >     >> messages, or all of this message or attachments may not have
> > originated at
> >     >> this email address.  This notice is automatically appended to all
> > emails
> >     >> leaving this email address.
> >     >> >
> >     >> > ________________________________
> >     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on
> behalf
> > of
> >     >> James L Scott via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:05 PM
> >     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>; Dave Demko <
> >     >> demko61 at gmail.com>
> >     >> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Try gold plating - that often takes care of it. If not, you can
> > try a
> >     >> lexan rim on a silver cup or a stainless steel mouthpiece. One of
> > those
> >     >> should work for you. I'm really enjoying my Ultimate Brass
> > mouthpiece that
> >     >> has a gold-plated cup & rim, Great feel on the chops (it helps
> that
> > it's a
> >     >> great mouthpiece as well)!
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Good luck!
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Jim Scott
> >     >> > ________________________________
> >     >> > From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on
> behalf
> > of
> >     >> Dave Demko via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >     >> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:35 PM
> >     >> > To: List Trombone <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> >     >> > Subject: [Trombone-l] Possible Mouthpiece Allergy
> >     >> >
> >     >> > [?EXTERNAL]
> >     >> >
> >     >> >
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Hi all,
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Who has experience with allergic reactions to standard
> > silver-plated
> >     >> > mouthpieces? I have one spot where the rim crosses that
> sometimes
> > fades
> >     >> but
> >     >> > never goes away. No swelling. At first I thought it was a cold
> > sore. It
> >     >> > doesn't quite seem like what some brass and flute players on the
> > web
> >     >> have
> >     >> > described as allergies.
> >     >> >
> >     >> > I'm going to switch over to a Kelly Lexan mouthpiece when I
> have a
> >     >> stretch
> >     >> > of practice-only days to see whether stopping contact with
> silver
> > plate
> >     >> > will make a difference.
> >     >> >
> >     >> > Thanks,
> >     >> > Dave
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