From jim at jimnova.com  Fri Apr  3 11:06:41 2020
From: jim at jimnova.com (Jim Nova)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 12:06:41 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] =?utf-8?q?Special_message_from_members_of_the_Pitts?=
 =?utf-8?q?burgh_Symphony_Brass_and_Superman=E2=80=A6?=
Message-ID: <74F2EC29-CEC6-4AF8-8146-5A867CC6797D@jimnova.com>

Special message from members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass and Superman? 

https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg <https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg>

Members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass play the Superman March by John Williams
 
Arranged by Jim Nova

Chad Winkler - Trumpets
Mark Houghton - Horn
Jim Nova - Trombones (tenor, bass and contrabass)
Craig Knox - Tuba

Editing, Mixing and Mastering by Jim Nova



James Nova
Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University
Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
jimnova.com






From horton.raymond at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 18:49:25 2020
From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 19:49:25 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] 
 =?utf-8?q?Special_message_from_members_of_the_Pitts?=
 =?utf-8?q?burgh_Symphony_Brass_and_Superman=E2=80=A6?=
In-Reply-To: <74F2EC29-CEC6-4AF8-8146-5A867CC6797D@jimnova.com>
References: <74F2EC29-CEC6-4AF8-8146-5A867CC6797D@jimnova.com>
Message-ID: <9763EE1F-C3F1-43B7-A001-01898E2ADE5A@gmail.com>

OK, only one word: Super!!!

Raymond Horton
Composer/Arranger 
Minister of Music, 
Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016

> On Apr 3, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Special message from members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass and Superman? 
> 
> https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg <https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg>
> 
> Members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass play the Superman March by John Williams
> 
> Arranged by Jim Nova
> 
> Chad Winkler - Trumpets
> Mark Houghton - Horn
> Jim Nova - Trombones (tenor, bass and contrabass)
> Craig Knox - Tuba
> 
> Editing, Mixing and Mastering by Jim Nova
> 
> 
> 
> James Nova
> Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
> Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University
> Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
> jimnova.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org



From jim at jimnova.com  Sun Apr  5 18:52:50 2020
From: jim at jimnova.com (Jim Nova)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 19:52:50 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] 
 =?utf-8?q?Special_message_from_members_of_the_Pitts?=
 =?utf-8?q?burgh_Symphony_Brass_and_Superman=E2=80=A6?=
In-Reply-To: <9763EE1F-C3F1-43B7-A001-01898E2ADE5A@gmail.com>
References: <9763EE1F-C3F1-43B7-A001-01898E2ADE5A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EDB6DBC7-1C6C-4FEE-91BA-40380A7FC9C7@jimnova.com>

Thanks!

James Nova
Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
Brass Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University
Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
jimnova.com

> On Apr 5, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> ?OK, only one word: Super!!!
> 
> Raymond Horton
> Composer/Arranger 
> Minister of Music, 
> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist,
> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Special message from members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass and Superman? 
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg <https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg>
>> 
>> Members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass play the Superman March by John Williams
>> 
>> Arranged by Jim Nova
>> 
>> Chad Winkler - Trumpets
>> Mark Houghton - Horn
>> Jim Nova - Trombones (tenor, bass and contrabass)
>> Craig Knox - Tuba
>> 
>> Editing, Mixing and Mastering by Jim Nova
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> James Nova
>> Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
>> Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University
>> Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
>> jimnova.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> 
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From drbach6 at aol.com  Sun Apr  5 20:11:36 2020
From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:11:36 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] 
 =?utf-8?q?Special_message_from_members_of_the_Pitts?=
 =?utf-8?q?burgh_Symphony_Brass_and_Superman=E2=80=A6?=
In-Reply-To: <9763EE1F-C3F1-43B7-A001-01898E2ADE5A@gmail.com>
References: <74F2EC29-CEC6-4AF8-8146-5A867CC6797D@jimnova.com>
	<9763EE1F-C3F1-43B7-A001-01898E2ADE5A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3E3940B-9D30-4ED3-841F-28D005461A50@aol.com>

??

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Apr 5, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> OK, only one word: Super!!!
> 
> Raymond Horton
> Composer/Arranger 
> Minister of Music, 
> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist,
> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Special message from members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass and Superman? 
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg <https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg>
>> 
>> Members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass play the Superman March by John Williams
>> 
>> Arranged by Jim Nova
>> 
>> Chad Winkler - Trumpets
>> Mark Houghton - Horn
>> Jim Nova - Trombones (tenor, bass and contrabass)
>> Craig Knox - Tuba
>> 
>> Editing, Mixing and Mastering by Jim Nova
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> James Nova
>> Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
>> Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University
>> Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
>> jimnova.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
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From drbach6 at aol.com  Sun Apr  5 20:11:36 2020
From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:11:36 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] 
 =?utf-8?q?Special_message_from_members_of_the_Pitts?=
 =?utf-8?q?burgh_Symphony_Brass_and_Superman=E2=80=A6?=
In-Reply-To: <9763EE1F-C3F1-43B7-A001-01898E2ADE5A@gmail.com>
References: <74F2EC29-CEC6-4AF8-8146-5A867CC6797D@jimnova.com>
	<9763EE1F-C3F1-43B7-A001-01898E2ADE5A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3E3940B-9D30-4ED3-841F-28D005461A50@aol.com>

??

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Apr 5, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Raymond Horton via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> OK, only one word: Super!!!
> 
> Raymond Horton
> Composer/Arranger 
> Minister of Music, 
> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist,
> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Special message from members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass and Superman? 
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg <https://youtu.be/MkqmK4FEIWg>
>> 
>> Members of the Pittsburgh Symphony Brass play the Superman March by John Williams
>> 
>> Arranged by Jim Nova
>> 
>> Chad Winkler - Trumpets
>> Mark Houghton - Horn
>> Jim Nova - Trombones (tenor, bass and contrabass)
>> Craig Knox - Tuba
>> 
>> Editing, Mixing and Mastering by Jim Nova
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> James Nova
>> Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
>> Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University
>> Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
>> jimnova.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> 
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From jmdanner at samford.edu  Sun Apr  5 20:33:50 2020
From: jmdanner at samford.edu (Danner, Mearl)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 01:33:50 +0000
Subject: [Trombone-l] "Practicing" social distancing
Message-ID: <BN6PR22MB0129FFC8866F42064D7D1E15D5C20@BN6PR22MB0129.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SZZ24t3U7QA&feature=youtu.be

Mearl



From pricetaylor at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 18:16:46 2020
From: pricetaylor at gmail.com (Price Taylor)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:16:46 -0700
Subject: [Trombone-l] Bob Elkjer is in on the coronavirus music
Message-ID: <CAO9Dafd=+whN3RdyyB6TbOKVLxZ6KGHujURsT6+cr3SdobrEYQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgILqvuc0js&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=7BsfPiTFEvZzasUc%3A6

Enjoy and stay safe!

Price


From horton.raymond at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 10:42:44 2020
From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 11:42:44 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Acappella app
Message-ID: <CAAMjx4AuRJgj1QyUiFrr=EH1XVxo7QHk+madNVNWtTs0df+27Q@mail.gmail.com>

If you are like this old Luddite, you have watched and listened to many
fine self-overdubbed videos from several talented list members with awe,
thinking "tech has passed me by!  I haven't a clue as to how to do this!".
Until a friend told me about Acappella.  Realizing others may be like I
was, here's my story:

I?ve just started using Acappella myself. It is very easy to download from
Appstore
and easy to use use, it can be run on an iPad or iPhone. The free version
makes
videos up to 30 seconds long, a subscription of about $5 a month can
make videos up to 10 minutes in length. The user plays one part at a
time, usually to an internal metronome, and can add other parts or
email it to other users in order for them to add parts. It is limited
to nine parts at a time, but some get around this limit by importing
one file, etc. I am not sure how far that can go.

I will post a link to an Acappella file I completed a few days ago to
use for the socially distant postlude on this weeks Sunday service at
my church. I made a quick arrangement and quick overdubbed performance of
Palestrina?s great Easter hymn VICTORY. (I used the iPad's internal
microphone.) I also found myself, as the last player in the group,
with nothing to do for a stanza, waiting to add a descant, so I
resorted to some comedy inspired by a classic SCTV bit that I will
also post a link to. I hope all enjoy!

Ray:
https://mixcord.co/acapella/p/wnwRjGEVeNdubnJeQDuZFA/
Made with Acapella

SCTV:
https://youtu.be/4JLbhEUE_5U

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com


From horton.raymond at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 11:48:28 2020
From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 12:48:28 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] =?utf-8?q?Music_to_his_ears=3A_How_Jackie_Robinson?=
 =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=99s_love_of_jazz_helped_civil_rights_movement?=
Message-ID: <6F986043-9673-4486-BD5D-03EC7027EFD7@gmail.com>


https://theundefeated.com/features/how-jackie-robinsons-love-of-jazz-helped-civil-rights-movement/


Raymond Horton
Composer/Arranger 
Minister of Music, 
Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016


From jim at jimnova.com  Tue Apr 21 11:45:09 2020
From: jim at jimnova.com (Jim Nova)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 12:45:09 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners!
Message-ID: <576758CC-F450-41A6-946A-A54C996A5EC0@jimnova.com>

Overdubbing for beginners!

This is a step by step instructional video on how I do my overdubs! I use Audacity in this demo which is free software on either a Mac or PC. I hope this helps people get started!!

https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM <https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM>

James Nova
Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University
Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
jimnova.com






From craig at parmerlee.com  Sun Apr 26 10:22:30 2020
From: craig at parmerlee.com (Craig Parmerlee)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 11:22:30 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners!
In-Reply-To: <576758CC-F450-41A6-946A-A54C996A5EC0@jimnova.com>
References: <576758CC-F450-41A6-946A-A54C996A5EC0@jimnova.com>
Message-ID: <396c4dbd-4cad-1c15-a221-3f9f1d0df118@parmerlee.com>

This is a great introduction.? Thanks for taking the time to put that 
together, Jim.? I also started by using Audacity, and I still keep it 
installed on my studio computer because there are occasionally some 
things I want to do that are super quick and easy with Audacity.? The 
nice thing about starting with Audacity is that is straightforward and 
uncomplicated (relatively speaking) and generally does exactly what you 
would expect it to do.

If there are people who are looking at this sheltering period as a time 
to take next steps, then they may want to explore the DAW (digital audio 
workstation) world. Audacity is what I would call a static audio 
editor.? Everything is done in discrete steps.? If you want to apply 
equalization, you select the range, process the EQ, then listen.? If it 
isn't what you wanted, you undo and try it a different way,? That makes 
it very comprehensible because you are never doing more than one thing 
at a time.

With DAWs, everything is interactive. For that equalization example, you 
would select the range, loop it, *and while listening*, apply EQ 
adjustments in real time until you get it sounding the way you want.? 
The original file is unchanged, but the DAW knows to apply the EQ any 
time that track is played.? With DAWs you can automate all these changes 
(EQ, compression, reverb, chorusing, distortion ... anything you need) 
so that the effects can change during the course of the song.? And you 
can also automate the volume faders (to bring up a solo), pan controls, 
anything.? Also with DAWs, you can freely mix recorded tracks with 
tracks created through MIDI performance.

It is a completely different experience, and probably a whole lot more 
learning curve than most people want to undertake.? I just mention it as 
an option because people may have a little extra time available right 
now to take on a learning curve.

For Windows users, the Cakewalk (previously called SONAR) DAW is now 
provided 100% free from Bandlab and it is a very, very advanced DAW.? 
For $60 you can get Reaper, which works on Windows, Mac and Linux.? It 
is also a very advanced product.? If anybody is very serious about going 
in this direction, feel free to send me an email.? There are loads of 
other options out there with varying levels of features, price and 
system requirements.? Truly an embarrassment of riches in this space today.


On 4/21/2020 12:45 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l wrote:
> Overdubbing for beginners!
>
> This is a step by step instructional video on how I do my overdubs! I use Audacity in this demo which is free software on either a Mac or PC. I hope this helps people get started!!
>
> https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM <https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM>
>
> James Nova
> Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
> Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University
> Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
> jimnova.com
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org




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From celebratingchrist at comcast.net  Sun Apr 26 10:38:37 2020
From: celebratingchrist at comcast.net (celebratingchrist)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 11:38:37 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners!
In-Reply-To: <396c4dbd-4cad-1c15-a221-3f9f1d0df118@parmerlee.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1642759007.268266.trombone-l_trombonelist.org@trombonelist.org>

It nay be overkill, but the mac daddy seems to be Ableton, and they have a 90 day free trial going.Sent from mobile.
-------- Original message --------From: Craig Parmerlee via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> Date: 4/26/20  11:23  (GMT-05:00) To: Jim Nova <jim at jimnova.com>, Trombone List <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners! This is a great introduction.? Thanks for taking the time to put that together, Jim.? I also started by using Audacity, and I still keep it installed on my studio computer because there are occasionally some things I want to do that are super quick and easy with Audacity.? The nice thing about starting with Audacity is that is straightforward and uncomplicated (relatively speaking) and generally does exactly what you would expect it to do.If there are people who are looking at this sheltering period as a time to take next steps, then they may want to explore the DAW (digital audio workstation) world. Audacity is what I would call a static audio editor.? Everything is done in discrete steps.? If you want to apply equalization, you select the range, process the EQ, then listen.? If it isn't what you wanted, you undo and try it a different way,? That makes it very comprehensible because you are never doing more than one thing at a time.With DAWs, everything is interactive. For that equalization example, you would select the range, loop it, *and while listening*, apply EQ adjustments in real time until you get it sounding the way you want.? The original file is unchanged, but the DAW knows to apply the EQ any time that track is played.? With DAWs you can automate all these changes (EQ, compression, reverb, chorusing, distortion ... anything you need) so that the effects can change during the course of the song.? And you can also automate the volume faders (to bring up a solo), pan controls, anything.? Also with DAWs, you can freely mix recorded tracks with tracks created through MIDI performance.It is a completely different experience, and probably a whole lot more learning curve than most people want to undertake.? I just mention it as an option because people may have a little extra time available right now to take on a learning curve.For Windows users, the Cakewalk (previously called SONAR) DAW is now provided 100% free from Bandlab and it is a very, very advanced DAW.? For $60 you can get Reaper, which works on Windows, Mac and Linux.? It is also a very advanced product.? If anybody is very serious about going in this direction, feel free to send me an email.? There are loads of other options out there with varying levels of features, price and system requirements.? Truly an embarrassment of riches in this space today.On 4/21/2020 12:45 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l wrote:> Overdubbing for beginners!>> This is a step by step instructional video on how I do my overdubs! I use Audacity in this demo which is free software on either a Mac or PC. I hope this helps people get started!!>> https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM <https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM>>> James Nova> Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra> Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University> Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras> jimnova.com>>>>> _______________________________________________> Trombone-l mailing list> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org-- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.https://www.avast.com/antivirus_______________________________________________Trombone-l mailing listTrombone-l at trombonelist.orghttp://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org

From phanmore at cogeco.ca  Sun Apr 26 11:04:59 2020
From: phanmore at cogeco.ca (Peter Hanmore)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:04:59 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners!
In-Reply-To: <030nnit02jdrar80lu31jl0f.1587916968381@email.android.com>
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Cakewalk is also free and is a step up from Audacity but sometimes simple is just what you need and Audacity fits that bill perfectly.?Peter?
-------- Original message --------From: celebratingchrist via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> Date: 2020-04-26  11:39 a.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: craig at parmerlee.com, Jim Nova <jim at jimnova.com>, Trombone List <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners! It nay be overkill, but the mac daddy seems to be Ableton, and they have a 90 day free trial going.Sent from mobile.-------- Original message --------From: Craig Parmerlee via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> Date: 4/26/20? 11:23? (GMT-05:00) To: Jim Nova <jim at jimnova.com>, Trombone List <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners! This is a great introduction.? Thanks for taking the time to put that together, Jim.? I also started by using Audacity, and I still keep it installed on my studio computer because there are occasionally some things I want to do that are super quick and easy with Audacity.? The nice thing about starting with Audacity is that is straightforward and uncomplicated (relatively speaking) and generally does exactly what you would expect it to do.If there are people who are looking at this sheltering period as a time to take next steps, then they may want to explore the DAW (digital audio workstation) world. Audacity is what I would call a static audio editor.? Everything is done in discrete steps.? If you want to apply equalization, you select the range, process the EQ, then listen.? If it isn't what you wanted, you undo and try it a different way,? That makes it very comprehensible because you are never doing more than one thing at a time.With DAWs, everything is interactive. For that equalization example, you would select the range, loop it, *and while listening*, apply EQ adjustments in real time until you get it sounding the way you want.? The original file is unchanged, but the DAW knows to apply the EQ any time that track is played.? With DAWs you can automate all these changes (EQ, compression, reverb, chorusing, distortion ... anything you need) so that the effects can change during the course of the song.? And you can also automate the volume faders (to bring up a solo), pan controls, anything.? Also with DAWs, you can freely mix recorded tracks with tracks created through MIDI performance.It is a completely different experience, and probably a whole lot more learning curve than most people want to undertake.? I just mention it as an option because people may have a little extra time available right now to take on a learning curve.For Windows users, the Cakewalk (previously called SONAR) DAW is now provided 100% free from Bandlab and it is a very, very advanced DAW.? For $60 you can get Reaper, which works on Windows, Mac and Linux.? It is also a very advanced product.? If anybody is very serious about going in this direction, feel free to send me an email.? There are loads of other options out there with varying levels of features, price and system requirements.? Truly an embarrassment of riches in this space today.On 4/21/2020 12:45 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l wrote:> Overdubbing for beginners!>> This is a step by step instructional video on how I do my overdubs! I use Audacity in this demo which is free software on either a Mac or PC. I hope this helps people get started!!>> https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM <https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM>>> James Nova> Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra> Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University> Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras> jimnova.com>>>>> _______________________________________________> Trombone-l mailing list> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org-- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.https://www.avast.com/antivirus_______________________________________________Trombone-l mailing listTrombone-l at trombonelist.orghttp://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org_______________________________________________Trombone-l mailing listTrombone-l at trombonelist.orghttp://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org

From rbarrygreen at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 12:11:42 2020
From: rbarrygreen at gmail.com (Barry Green)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:11:42 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] overdubs using logic
Message-ID: <39DAF2C4-3288-49D3-B493-F6D3CC355C0C@gmail.com>

Attachment available until May 26, 2020
Matt Jefferson and I overdubbed this using logic and Matt 
did the video.  We/re trying to do one a week during all this
craziness until we get back to recording sessions?.Very ready.
Not sure if you guys can post videos here or not?.
Click to Download
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From craig at parmerlee.com  Sun Apr 26 20:00:10 2020
From: craig at parmerlee.com (Craig Parmerlee)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 21:00:10 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners!
Message-ID: <0b5aa9e8-a6f2-b418-0b5f-eb9b1e7fa7de@parmerlee.com>

Ableton Live is promoted mostly as a DAW for live performance.? For 
doing more traditional recording projects I think there are probably 
more popular choices: Logic, FL Studio, StudioOne, Cubase, etc.

Most of these DAWs offer a very low cost (or free) starter version that 
may include only the most basic plug-ins and may be limited to xx number 
of? recording tracks.? If you buy an audio interface, most of those come 
with a license to one of the starter products.? Getting up to the full 
version will cost some serious money ($250-500).? That's why I mentioned 
Cakewalk and Reaper.? They are both very rich packages for the cost of a 
couple of big pizzas and pitchers of beer (or free in the case of 
Cakewalk.).

The DAW itself is the "container" for everything, and most of the DAWs 
do all the basic stuff about the same.? Different DAWs emphasize 
different parts of the work-flow more than others.? E.G. Ableton is 
really great for looping, especially in live performance.? StudioOne has 
a nice mastering module that is a bit more seamless than other 
products.? Cubase includes an elaborate chord track feature used with 
arpeggiation, and so on.

But the real intense action happens in the plug-ins.? Any of the DAWs 
will come with at least a few plug-ins to do compression, EQ and maybe 
reverb.? But there is a huge industry of third-party plug-ins.? Many 
people accumulate hundreds of plug-ins over time.? I have more than I 
can remember how to use, but tend to use the same 15 plugs very frequently.

Regarding Ableton, I'm sure everybody has seen Christopher Bill's 
amazing version of Happy.? I couldn't see the screen, but I'm almost 
positive he was using Ableton Live.? He's a real ninja. There wasn't any 
pre-recorded material when the video stated.? Everything you hear is 
Christopher putting music into the DAW on the fly.? I can't even think 
about playing that on the trombone, let alone also coordinating all 
those layers and loops on the fly.

On 4/26/2020 11:38 AM, celebratingchrist wrote:
> It nay be overkill, but the mac daddy seems to be Ableton, and they 
> have a 90 day free trial going.
>
>
>
> Sent from mobile.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Craig Parmerlee via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Date: 4/26/20 11:23 (GMT-05:00)
> To: Jim Nova <jim at jimnova.com>, Trombone List 
> <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners!
>
> This is a great introduction.? Thanks for taking the time to put that
> together, Jim.? I also started by using Audacity, and I still keep it
> installed on my studio computer because there are occasionally some
> things I want to do that are super quick and easy with Audacity. The
> nice thing about starting with Audacity is that is straightforward and
> uncomplicated (relatively speaking) and generally does exactly what you
> would expect it to do.
>
> If there are people who are looking at this sheltering period as a time
> to take next steps, then they may want to explore the DAW (digital audio
> workstation) world. Audacity is what I would call a static audio
> editor.? Everything is done in discrete steps.? If you want to apply
> equalization, you select the range, process the EQ, then listen. If it
> isn't what you wanted, you undo and try it a different way,? That makes
> it very comprehensible because you are never doing more than one thing
> at a time.
>
> With DAWs, everything is interactive. For that equalization example, you
> would select the range, loop it, *and while listening*, apply EQ
> adjustments in real time until you get it sounding the way you want.
> The original file is unchanged, but the DAW knows to apply the EQ any
> time that track is played.? With DAWs you can automate all these changes
> (EQ, compression, reverb, chorusing, distortion ... anything you need)
> so that the effects can change during the course of the song.? And you
> can also automate the volume faders (to bring up a solo), pan controls,
> anything.? Also with DAWs, you can freely mix recorded tracks with
> tracks created through MIDI performance.
>
> It is a completely different experience, and probably a whole lot more
> learning curve than most people want to undertake.? I just mention it as
> an option because people may have a little extra time available right
> now to take on a learning curve.
>
> For Windows users, the Cakewalk (previously called SONAR) DAW is now
> provided 100% free from Bandlab and it is a very, very advanced DAW.
> For $60 you can get Reaper, which works on Windows, Mac and Linux.? It
> is also a very advanced product.? If anybody is very serious about going
> in this direction, feel free to send me an email.? There are loads of
> other options out there with varying levels of features, price and
> system requirements.? Truly an embarrassment of riches in this space 
> today.
>
>
> On 4/21/2020 12:45 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l wrote:
> > Overdubbing for beginners!
> >
> > This is a step by step instructional video on how I do my overdubs! 
> I use Audacity in this demo which is free software on either a Mac or 
> PC. I hope this helps people get started!!
> >
> > https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM <https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM>
> >
> > James Nova
> > Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
> > Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne 
> University
> > Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
> > jimnova.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Trombone-l mailing list
> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>
>
>
>
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From craig at parmerlee.com  Mon Apr 27 22:31:03 2020
From: craig at parmerlee.com (Craig Parmerlee)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:31:03 -0400
Subject: [Trombone-l] Other uses for DAW technology (pedagogy)
In-Reply-To: <0b5aa9e8-a6f2-b418-0b5f-eb9b1e7fa7de@parmerlee.com>
References: <0b5aa9e8-a6f2-b418-0b5f-eb9b1e7fa7de@parmerlee.com>
Message-ID: <515e077d-9fe4-da00-0c4f-06e160e5250c@parmerlee.com>

Three have been several posts recently about using computer programs for 
the purposes of creating multi-track recordings. This is relevant today 
because most of us are sheltering at home, and might be inspired to 
produce a quartet, octet (or whatever) ourselves.

I'd like to mention a few other uses of the technology that aren't 
broadly known.

Certainly recording oneself -- or a student -- is an excellent way to 
get unbiased feedback.? Recordings don't sugar-coat anything.? I highly 
recommend that all players record themselves regularly.? And teachers 
should consider using recording as a key part of pedagogy.? I don't 
there is anything remarkable or controversial about that.

Digging deeper, there are tools (i.e. plug-ins) that work with all the 
DAWs that can be a real revelation.? One important area is intonation.? 
One can learn? a lot about their intonation simply by recording and 
listening.? But you can go a step beyond that. There are various 
pitch-correcting tools available as plug-ins. The most advanced one, 
IMHO, is Melodyne by Celemony.? This product analyzes a recorded track 
and identifies individual notes, displaying them as "blobs".? You can do 
amazing manipulations to those blobs, including pitch correction, 
changing pitches altogether, cloning notes to make harmonies, shortening 
or lengthening notes, increase/decrease volume, reduce or exaggerate 
vibrato or portamento, and many other things.? And amazingly this is all 
very transparent with only slight artifacts often completely inaudible.

 From a pedagogic standpoint, something I find very revealing is a 
Melodyne feature where you can select an entire range of notes and then 
use a slider to bring the notes closer to the pitch center. By moving 
that slider, the student/user can see those blobs moving around.? The 
blobs that move the farthest are the ones that were play most out of 
tune.? It is a humbling experience.

Likewise many of the DAWs can analyze the audio and accurately plot the 
"transient" (i.e. attacks) of each note.? If you are performing with 
tracks that use a metronome (click track) you can visually see how 
accurate your timing is.? And to take it one step farther, if you use 
Melodyne, there is another slider that moves the blobs closer and closer 
to the completely "quantized" timing.

These ideas aren't for everybody.? But some people respond well to 
visual feedback.? And if there is anybody who might want to incorporate 
that in their teaching as we wend our way back to "normal", this could 
be a time to learn some of those techniques. I'd be happy to share ideas 
and experiences offline if anybody is interested.


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From barrett.richard.personal at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 03:24:27 2020
From: barrett.richard.personal at gmail.com (Richard Barrett)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:24:27 +0100
Subject: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners!
In-Reply-To: <0b5aa9e8-a6f2-b418-0b5f-eb9b1e7fa7de@parmerlee.com>
References: <0b5aa9e8-a6f2-b418-0b5f-eb9b1e7fa7de@parmerlee.com>
Message-ID: <CABBMZqOSgU20_uinjngby7-YWTHGy7p6bu9VvJXP-yHfrc4aww@mail.gmail.com>

Starting out on this journey.  Using a Zoom Hn4 Pro (widely recommended by
various sources), plus two Rhode M5 mics (recommended by a professional
sound engineer friend).  Cubase LE comes free with the Zoom.  Currently
grappling with the set up on my Windows 10 lap top.  These posts and the
post about using DAW in performance improvement will be very helpful -
thank you.
R

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 02:01, Craig Parmerlee via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Ableton Live is promoted mostly as a DAW for live performance.  For
> doing more traditional recording projects I think there are probably
> more popular choices: Logic, FL Studio, StudioOne, Cubase, etc.
>
> Most of these DAWs offer a very low cost (or free) starter version that
> may include only the most basic plug-ins and may be limited to xx number
> of  recording tracks.  If you buy an audio interface, most of those come
> with a license to one of the starter products.  Getting up to the full
> version will cost some serious money ($250-500).  That's why I mentioned
> Cakewalk and Reaper.  They are both very rich packages for the cost of a
> couple of big pizzas and pitchers of beer (or free in the case of
> Cakewalk.).
>
> The DAW itself is the "container" for everything, and most of the DAWs
> do all the basic stuff about the same.  Different DAWs emphasize
> different parts of the work-flow more than others.  E.G. Ableton is
> really great for looping, especially in live performance.  StudioOne has
> a nice mastering module that is a bit more seamless than other
> products.  Cubase includes an elaborate chord track feature used with
> arpeggiation, and so on.
>
> But the real intense action happens in the plug-ins.  Any of the DAWs
> will come with at least a few plug-ins to do compression, EQ and maybe
> reverb.  But there is a huge industry of third-party plug-ins.  Many
> people accumulate hundreds of plug-ins over time.  I have more than I
> can remember how to use, but tend to use the same 15 plugs very frequently.
>
> Regarding Ableton, I'm sure everybody has seen Christopher Bill's
> amazing version of Happy.  I couldn't see the screen, but I'm almost
> positive he was using Ableton Live.  He's a real ninja. There wasn't any
> pre-recorded material when the video stated.  Everything you hear is
> Christopher putting music into the DAW on the fly.  I can't even think
> about playing that on the trombone, let alone also coordinating all
> those layers and loops on the fly.
>
> On 4/26/2020 11:38 AM, celebratingchrist wrote:
> > It nay be overkill, but the mac daddy seems to be Ableton, and they
> > have a 90 day free trial going.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from mobile.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Craig Parmerlee via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > Date: 4/26/20 11:23 (GMT-05:00)
> > To: Jim Nova <jim at jimnova.com>, Trombone List
> > <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Overdubbing for beginners!
> >
> > This is a great introduction.  Thanks for taking the time to put that
> > together, Jim.  I also started by using Audacity, and I still keep it
> > installed on my studio computer because there are occasionally some
> > things I want to do that are super quick and easy with Audacity. The
> > nice thing about starting with Audacity is that is straightforward and
> > uncomplicated (relatively speaking) and generally does exactly what you
> > would expect it to do.
> >
> > If there are people who are looking at this sheltering period as a time
> > to take next steps, then they may want to explore the DAW (digital audio
> > workstation) world. Audacity is what I would call a static audio
> > editor.  Everything is done in discrete steps.  If you want to apply
> > equalization, you select the range, process the EQ, then listen. If it
> > isn't what you wanted, you undo and try it a different way,  That makes
> > it very comprehensible because you are never doing more than one thing
> > at a time.
> >
> > With DAWs, everything is interactive. For that equalization example, you
> > would select the range, loop it, *and while listening*, apply EQ
> > adjustments in real time until you get it sounding the way you want.
> > The original file is unchanged, but the DAW knows to apply the EQ any
> > time that track is played.  With DAWs you can automate all these changes
> > (EQ, compression, reverb, chorusing, distortion ... anything you need)
> > so that the effects can change during the course of the song.  And you
> > can also automate the volume faders (to bring up a solo), pan controls,
> > anything.  Also with DAWs, you can freely mix recorded tracks with
> > tracks created through MIDI performance.
> >
> > It is a completely different experience, and probably a whole lot more
> > learning curve than most people want to undertake.  I just mention it as
> > an option because people may have a little extra time available right
> > now to take on a learning curve.
> >
> > For Windows users, the Cakewalk (previously called SONAR) DAW is now
> > provided 100% free from Bandlab and it is a very, very advanced DAW.
> > For $60 you can get Reaper, which works on Windows, Mac and Linux.  It
> > is also a very advanced product.  If anybody is very serious about going
> > in this direction, feel free to send me an email.  There are loads of
> > other options out there with varying levels of features, price and
> > system requirements.  Truly an embarrassment of riches in this space
> > today.
> >
> >
> > On 4/21/2020 12:45 PM, Jim Nova via Trombone-l wrote:
> > > Overdubbing for beginners!
> > >
> > > This is a step by step instructional video on how I do my overdubs!
> > I use Audacity in this demo which is free software on either a Mac or
> > PC. I hope this helps people get started!!
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM <https://youtu.be/xr3m3YyhHYM>
> > >
> > > James Nova
> > > Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
> > > Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne
> > University
> > > Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras
> > > jimnova.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Trombone-l mailing list
> > > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> > > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >
> >
> >
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