From ralphjr at thewhitfields.com  Mon Dec  2 21:21:51 2019
From: ralphjr at thewhitfields.com (Ralph Whitfield Jr.)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 21:21:51 -0600
Subject: [Trombone-l] Shoulder replacements
Message-ID: <A951C252-353B-472B-A672-76CFA5235A65@thewhitfields.com>

Fellow bone aficionados...

Friday night as I was taking out the trash I fell and stumbled into my wife?s car. The result: I hit my head and broke my right shoulder. The doc says it is so bad it will require a complete replacement...the only question is will he use the existing parts to rebuild my shoulder or will he punt and put in a reverse shoulder...(socket on the arm bone and the ball on the shoulder.)

Anybody on the list had this kind of surgery?  What was the recovery time? Lasting effects???

Let?s start a conversation on this type of surgery...I?ve already had to punt 2 gigs because of this. And , yes, it hurts like hell!! My surgery will be Thursday.

Thanks,

Ralph


Ralph W. Whitfield, Jr.
Bass Trombone, Gadsden Symphony Orchestra
Founder of Grand Avenue Brass
Owner of Rainbow Brass Music co.
"Trombonist by Nature, Engineer by Necessity!"


From michaelsanders6 at q.com  Tue Dec  3 05:51:16 2019
From: michaelsanders6 at q.com (Michael Sanders)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 06:51:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Trombone-l] Shoulder replacements
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References: <A951C252-353B-472B-A672-76CFA5235A65@thewhitfields.com>
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I'm sorry to hear about your accident.  I haven't had a broken shoulder but about five years ago I stumbled while leaving my sister's house in Salt Lake and broke my right ankle in three places.  I have a metal plate and screws in that ankle and it will never be the same again.  At least I don't hve to use that ankle to play trombone.

----- Original Message -----
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To: trombone-l at trombonelist.org
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 7:21:51 PM
Subject: [Trombone-l] Shoulder replacements

Fellow bone aficionados...

Friday night as I was taking out the trash I fell and stumbled into my wife?s car. The result: I hit my head and broke my right shoulder. The doc says it is so bad it will require a complete replacement...the only question is will he use the existing parts to rebuild my shoulder or will he punt and put in a reverse shoulder...(socket on the arm bone and the ball on the shoulder.)

Anybody on the list had this kind of surgery?  What was the recovery time? Lasting effects???

Let?s start a conversation on this type of surgery...I?ve already had to punt 2 gigs because of this. And , yes, it hurts like hell!! My surgery will be Thursday.

Thanks,

Ralph


Ralph W. Whitfield, Jr.
Bass Trombone, Gadsden Symphony Orchestra
Founder of Grand Avenue Brass
Owner of Rainbow Brass Music co.
"Trombonist by Nature, Engineer by Necessity!"
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From horton.raymond at gmail.com  Tue Dec  3 07:32:56 2019
From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 08:32:56 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Shoulder replacements
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	<1359354587.6907955.1575373876036.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>
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Wow! My sympathies!

(I apologize. I wrote the following thinking you had injured your left shoulder. I would not rush out and buy an Ergo bone until you?re healed up some, But keep it in mind for the future, in case it seems like it would help.)
?-
My situation did not happen so suddenly, just after years of playing an extra heavy instrument, all intensified by one final incident, but Ergobone saved my career. I highly recommend it To take the weight off the Left shoulder. (There is a newer item Called Spinesaver that appears that it might have a little bit more flexibility, but I have not tried it. It would likely be good to take a look at it also.)

Best of luck!

Raymond Horton
Composer/Arranger 
Minister of Music, 
Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016

> On Dec 3, 2019, at 6:51 AM, Michael Sanders via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry to hear about your accident.  I haven't had a broken shoulder but about five years ago I stumbled while leaving my sister's house in Salt Lake and broke my right ankle in three places.  I have a metal plate and screws in that ankle and it will never be the same again.  At least I don't hve to use that ankle to play trombone.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ralph Whitfield Jr. via Trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> To: trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 7:21:51 PM
> Subject: [Trombone-l] Shoulder replacements
> 
> Fellow bone aficionados...
> 
> Friday night as I was taking out the trash I fell and stumbled into my wife?s car. The result: I hit my head and broke my right shoulder. The doc says it is so bad it will require a complete replacement...the only question is will he use the existing parts to rebuild my shoulder or will he punt and put in a reverse shoulder...(socket on the arm bone and the ball on the shoulder.)
> 
> Anybody on the list had this kind of surgery?  What was the recovery time? Lasting effects???
> 
> Let?s start a conversation on this type of surgery...I?ve already had to punt 2 gigs because of this. And , yes, it hurts like hell!! My surgery will be Thursday.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 
> Ralph W. Whitfield, Jr.
> Bass Trombone, Gadsden Symphony Orchestra
> Founder of Grand Avenue Brass
> Owner of Rainbow Brass Music co.
> "Trombonist by Nature, Engineer by Necessity!"
> _______________________________________________
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From bobkoester at msn.com  Tue Dec  3 07:52:17 2019
From: bobkoester at msn.com (Bob Koester)
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:52:17 +0000
Subject: [Trombone-l] Shoulder replacements
In-Reply-To: <FA1AEE31-06F9-40D8-A683-AE89B0EB7406@gmail.com>
References: <A951C252-353B-472B-A672-76CFA5235A65@thewhitfields.com>
	<1359354587.6907955.1575373876036.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com>,
	<FA1AEE31-06F9-40D8-A683-AE89B0EB7406@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CY4PR2001MB17816A37A513F53E47DE80C5DB420@CY4PR2001MB1781.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Sorry to hear about your accident.  I had a knee replaced in January.  Total replacement.  They used a combination of chromium and polypropelene...no reuseable natural parts.  Good luck.

Bob Koester, Principal, MSI Financial

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Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 7:32 AM
To: Michael Sanders <michaelsanders6 at q.com>
Cc: Ralph Whitfield Jr. <ralphjr at thewhitfields.com>; trombone-l at trombonelist.org <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Shoulder replacements

Wow! My sympathies!

(I apologize. I wrote the following thinking you had injured your left shoulder. I would not rush out and buy an Ergo bone until you?re healed up some, But keep it in mind for the future, in case it seems like it would help.)
?-
My situation did not happen so suddenly, just after years of playing an extra heavy instrument, all intensified by one final incident, but Ergobone saved my career. I highly recommend it To take the weight off the Left shoulder. (There is a newer item Called Spinesaver that appears that it might have a little bit more flexibility, but I have not tried it. It would likely be good to take a look at it also.)

Best of luck!

Raymond Horton
Composer/Arranger
Minister of Music,
Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016

> On Dec 3, 2019, at 6:51 AM, Michael Sanders via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry to hear about your accident.  I haven't had a broken shoulder but about five years ago I stumbled while leaving my sister's house in Salt Lake and broke my right ankle in three places.  I have a metal plate and screws in that ankle and it will never be the same again.  At least I don't hve to use that ankle to play trombone.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ralph Whitfield Jr. via Trombone-l" <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
> To: trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 7:21:51 PM
> Subject: [Trombone-l] Shoulder replacements
>
> Fellow bone aficionados...
>
> Friday night as I was taking out the trash I fell and stumbled into my wife?s car. The result: I hit my head and broke my right shoulder. The doc says it is so bad it will require a complete replacement...the only question is will he use the existing parts to rebuild my shoulder or will he punt and put in a reverse shoulder...(socket on the arm bone and the ball on the shoulder.)
>
> Anybody on the list had this kind of surgery?  What was the recovery time? Lasting effects???
>
> Let?s start a conversation on this type of surgery...I?ve already had to punt 2 gigs because of this. And , yes, it hurts like hell!! My surgery will be Thursday.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ralph
>
>
> Ralph W. Whitfield, Jr.
> Bass Trombone, Gadsden Symphony Orchestra
> Founder of Grand Avenue Brass
> Owner of Rainbow Brass Music co.
> "Trombonist by Nature, Engineer by Necessity!"
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
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>
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From john at johnwasson.com  Fri Dec 20 14:18:31 2019
From: john at johnwasson.com (John Wasson)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:18:31 -0600
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
Message-ID: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>

Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable music stand suitable for travel?

JOHN WASSON
composer - producer
www.johnwasson.com <http://www.johnwasson.com/>
214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>

From john at johnwasson.com  Fri Dec 20 14:18:32 2019
From: john at johnwasson.com (John Wasson)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:18:32 -0600
Subject: [Trombone-l] Sorry, testing
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References: <ADC6E125-028B-408E-8944-5A80BF0741C1@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <A59E487F-BB6A-4AA1-AA87-04330DDAA85B@johnwasson.com>

Test passed.



Sent from my Windows 10 phone



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Test to see if I?m on the new list.



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From john.l.mcvey at gmail.com  Fri Dec 20 14:33:09 2019
From: john.l.mcvey at gmail.com (John McVey)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:33:09 -0600
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
References: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
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I've used a Manhasset Voyager for years. Get it with the stand-outs and the
slide-on tray, and it is incredibly versatile.

John McVey

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 14:19 John Wasson via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable
> music stand suitable for travel?
>
> JOHN WASSON
> composer - producer
> www.johnwasson.com <http://www.johnwasson.com/>
> 214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>
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From basstrb3 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 20 15:25:31 2019
From: basstrb3 at gmail.com (Philip Brink)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 16:25:31 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <CAMUk34joBV21gW6c=oAbcXxdgi32Q-09NArm9jjnjWdXNAmfkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
	<CAMUk34joBV21gW6c=oAbcXxdgi32Q-09NArm9jjnjWdXNAmfkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKyTOnU6s8Bwmw_V0neea8BECQaLR=uf0wbtAx4CxzY5YbAbgQ@mail.gmail.com>

My choice is the Peak folding music stand.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM John McVey via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> I've used a Manhasset Voyager for years. Get it with the stand-outs and the
> slide-on tray, and it is incredibly versatile.
>
> John McVey
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 14:19 John Wasson via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
> > Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable
> > music stand suitable for travel?
> >
> > JOHN WASSON
> > composer - producer
> > www.johnwasson.com <http://www.johnwasson.com/>
> > 214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
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> >
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College of Music, Mahidol University
Low Brass principal, Thailand Philharmonic, retired


From jmdanner at samford.edu  Fri Dec 20 16:23:17 2019
From: jmdanner at samford.edu (Danner, Mearl)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 22:23:17 +0000
Subject: [Trombone-l] [EXTERNAL]Re: Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <CAKyTOnU6s8Bwmw_V0neea8BECQaLR=uf0wbtAx4CxzY5YbAbgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
	<CAMUk34joBV21gW6c=oAbcXxdgi32Q-09NArm9jjnjWdXNAmfkA@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAKyTOnU6s8Bwmw_V0neea8BECQaLR=uf0wbtAx4CxzY5YbAbgQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Ditto Peak

I've got this one.

https://www.peakmusicstands.com/peak-music-stands/sms-20-collapsible-music-stand-3mt66


Solid desk folds and is sturdy. Shelf ties it all together. In the case it meaures 6"x5"x28".


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From: Trombone-l <trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org> on behalf of Philip Brink via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 3:25:31 PM
To: John McVey <john.l.mcvey at gmail.com>
Cc: John Wasson <john at johnwasson.com>; Trombone-L <Trombone-l at trombonelist.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?

My choice is the Peak folding music stand.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM John McVey via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> I've used a Manhasset Voyager for years. Get it with the stand-outs and the
> slide-on tray, and it is incredibly versatile.
>
> John McVey
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 14:19 John Wasson via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
> > Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable
> > music stand suitable for travel?
> >
> > JOHN WASSON
> > composer - producer
> > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1G35tif2sRiHzCS1YYShqHuNqJOa1qgNwLOjB6vlkuFqe7q0fIGfCxFuoLtaYmiqrGTeJdSImoeSVpE3-kDTUwmI5a44jb-pPRxceu8VlRg9k-1LDHn2VgqVA_TG5MS2uh6xS0r2g37Zga5anPV0iLftb0U_BN5t0e2_NeTc8AfcWtQz6E2k8oXEzRplsVSsV6EyJT7LBi8X8nnAJquOQNVDlA9n8rlPOyhwaPxwV_naWP2AN_lbTjLWp9xUhYVhMHyUZcB8vLf3eHFyNiyuVgDMZ2E8Na8q3yKAjnmxKb0dneMDU4XiAp51Vwa6LQm-VLIw844cBWQJJum8IOZ88wA/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnwasson.com <http://secure-web.cisco.com/1ore9TQbOkouNTmGpyPgZFnaM9Z-JobMdqSSQn_9L0UB8pkYzNips0DHLTenZQ1XgPNSETEXkfjeOjKVBMmRUmkERZym2W1cNGlI--1ChZCfDrW50rHPQr5nVpvQ6D5Uwi3ahappnNGe76j2A3vvccayByiIONBhHRMOtAt8UWiL1jijnnG-vDrgPxh3q5gy8xsg3DTbGyxOyULe0a9xI22C0iauNnIGVairTHu82ojt4WG339mvOEt-KazXNvGn5yyNtYfrmLAl_YUW5qal3q18UfxoEcFq67xBrqfNgREMHGaueAQu23675nIY9JFXQNFnig5hZcN3uM9dDIEUgSQ/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnwasson.com%2F>
> > 214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>
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From jimmydur at asis.com  Fri Dec 20 16:35:02 2019
From: jimmydur at asis.com (Jimmy Durchslag)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:35:02 -0800
Subject: [Trombone-l] [EXTERNAL]Re: Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR22MB0129B9939CBD41226AC53125D52D0@BN6PR22MB0129.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
	<CAMUk34joBV21gW6c=oAbcXxdgi32Q-09NArm9jjnjWdXNAmfkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKyTOnU6s8Bwmw_V0neea8BECQaLR=uf0wbtAx4CxzY5YbAbgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BN6PR22MB0129B9939CBD41226AC53125D52D0@BN6PR22MB0129.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CADv4GBn-WMUZ+2t7y9j8w00TyR_2f0ZuFB=vwP-WxPC0rWy+tQ@mail.gmail.com>

Probably bigger than you want, but I love my Manhattan folding voyager
stand with carry bag. WOuldn't work for air travel.

Jimmy

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 2:23 PM Danner, Mearl via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Ditto Peak
>
> I've got this one.
>
>
> https://www.peakmusicstands.com/peak-music-stands/sms-20-collapsible-music-stand-3mt66
>
>
> Solid desk folds and is sturdy. Shelf ties it all together. In the case it
> meaures 6"x5"x28".
>
>
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
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> My choice is the Peak folding music stand.
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM John McVey via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
> > I've used a Manhasset Voyager for years. Get it with the stand-outs and
> the
> > slide-on tray, and it is incredibly versatile.
> >
> > John McVey
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 14:19 John Wasson via Trombone-l <
> > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light
> portable
> > > music stand suitable for travel?
> > >
> > > JOHN WASSON
> > > composer - producer
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From jobriant at garlic.com  Fri Dec 20 17:22:34 2019
From: jobriant at garlic.com (Jim O'Briant)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 15:22:34 -0800
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
References: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
Message-ID: <009301d5b78c$5cb2e4f0$1618aed0$@garlic.com>

John Wasson wrote:

> Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong 
> light portable music stand suitable for travel?

For nearly 10 years I've been using the Desca "Presto" Folding Music Stand:

	https://www.descahome.com/ 

	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB1oRiYxvFA  

Extremely compact when folded up, light to transport (with a built-in
handle). Built-in shelf for smaller accessories, strong enough to hold my
jazz band's 4-inch lead sheet binders. I also use it when performing with
other groups, including our community Orchestra/


Jim O'Briant
Principal Tuba, South Valley Symphony Orchestra
	www.SouthValleySymphony.org 
Music Director / Staff Arragner, The Pacific Brass Band
	www.PacificBrassBand.org 
Tuba & Leader, the Zinfandel Stompers Vintage Jazz Band
Tuba, Earl Scheelar's Zenith Jazz Band

 





From gary.sloane at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec 20 17:36:44 2019
From: gary.sloane at sbcglobal.net (Gary Sloane)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 23:36:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
References: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
Message-ID: <138684919.1318556.1576885004563@mail.yahoo.com>

 I've had the best luck with K&M. Like the tombone stands, they're not cheap, but the heavy duty models are very sturdy and the tables fold up completely. Lighter duty models are still sturdy and probably better suited for travel than anything with a non-folding table.
Of course, YMMV.
Gary

    On Friday, December 20, 2019, 12:19:33 PM PST, John Wasson via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:  
 
 Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable music stand suitable for travel?

JOHN WASSON
composer - producer
www.johnwasson.com <http://www.johnwasson.com/>
214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>
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From sable at cantus.us  Fri Dec 20 18:08:19 2019
From: sable at cantus.us (Sable Cantus)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 16:08:19 -0800
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
References: <BE1F3B07-F59D-41CC-AE5B-9E54DFB7ACF9@johnwasson.com>
Message-ID: <93B86F46-BF75-4EA7-9E7C-05657096330A@cantus.us>

I've used a K&M folding stand (silver) since 2000 and it's been great. Sometimes you can unfold it the wrong way... 

https://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Music-Stand-Regular-Black/dp/B0009JR9YC

/sable

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 12:18 PM, John Wasson via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable music stand suitable for travel?
> 
> JOHN WASSON
> composer - producer
> www.johnwasson.com <http://www.johnwasson.com/>
> 214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>
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From toddbonester at gmail.com  Fri Dec 20 18:36:49 2019
From: toddbonester at gmail.com (Toddbonester)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:36:49 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <CAKyTOnU6s8Bwmw_V0neea8BECQaLR=uf0wbtAx4CxzY5YbAbgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKyTOnU6s8Bwmw_V0neea8BECQaLR=uf0wbtAx4CxzY5YbAbgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38A6D952-3CE3-409E-964D-F4FA5046F639@gmail.com>

I?ve been using a Petersen for about 15 years. It?s durable, super compact, has wing extenders, and holds a full folder of big band, orchestral, ensemble, or rock band charts. I?m going to get a second one in case one of my comrades leaves home without one. They?re on sale right now for about $40.00.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 4:26 PM, Philip Brink via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> ?My choice is the Peak folding music stand.
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM John McVey via Trombone-l <
>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I've used a Manhasset Voyager for years. Get it with the stand-outs and the
>> slide-on tray, and it is incredibly versatile.
>> 
>> John McVey
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 14:19 John Wasson via Trombone-l <
>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable
>>> music stand suitable for travel?
>>> 
>>> JOHN WASSON
>>> composer - producer
>>> www.johnwasson.com <http://www.johnwasson.com/>
>>> 214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Trombone-l mailing list
>>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> 
> 
> 
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> Instructor of Trombone, retired
> College of Music, Mahidol University
> Low Brass principal, Thailand Philharmonic, retired
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From drbach6 at aol.com  Sat Dec 21 00:31:45 2019
From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 01:31:45 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <38A6D952-3CE3-409E-964D-F4FA5046F639@gmail.com>
References: <CAKyTOnU6s8Bwmw_V0neea8BECQaLR=uf0wbtAx4CxzY5YbAbgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<38A6D952-3CE3-409E-964D-F4FA5046F639@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DD2AE65-9FF4-4524-8B8A-653D7ED49E4D@aol.com>

Hercules has come up with one that looks really sturdy. It?s about $30.

If you don?t mind paying $150, Wenger has one that is solid, folds flat, has a handle for carrying, and the wind can?t  blow it over. If you put a stand light of any kind on it, the desk won?t tip but the desk is adjustable to several angles. It comes with a tool for tightening the desk as well. Sturdy is an understatement. If you sit, it can be as short as you need it. Doesn?t extend all that far, but unless you?re over 6? tall, it will
Work well.

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Toddbonester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> I?ve been using a Petersen for about 15 years. It?s durable, super compact, has wing extenders, and holds a full folder of big band, orchestral, ensemble, or rock band charts. I?m going to get a second one in case one of my comrades leaves home without one. They?re on sale right now for about $40.00.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 4:26 PM, Philip Brink via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?My choice is the Peak folding music stand.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM John McVey via Trombone-l <
>>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've used a Manhasset Voyager for years. Get it with the stand-outs and the
>>> slide-on tray, and it is incredibly versatile.
>>> 
>>> John McVey
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 14:19 John Wasson via Trombone-l <
>>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable
>>>> music stand suitable for travel?
>>>> 
>>>> JOHN WASSON
>>>> composer - producer
>>>> www.johnwasson.com <http://www.johnwasson.com/>
>>>> 214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Trombone-l mailing list
>>>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Trombone-l mailing list
>>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Philip Brink
>> Instructor of Trombone, retired
>> College of Music, Mahidol University
>> Low Brass principal, Thailand Philharmonic, retired
>> _______________________________________________
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From drbach6 at aol.com  Sat Dec 21 00:31:45 2019
From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 01:31:45 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Portable music stand recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <38A6D952-3CE3-409E-964D-F4FA5046F639@gmail.com>
References: <CAKyTOnU6s8Bwmw_V0neea8BECQaLR=uf0wbtAx4CxzY5YbAbgQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<38A6D952-3CE3-409E-964D-F4FA5046F639@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DD2AE65-9FF4-4524-8B8A-653D7ED49E4D@aol.com>

Hercules has come up with one that looks really sturdy. It?s about $30.

If you don?t mind paying $150, Wenger has one that is solid, folds flat, has a handle for carrying, and the wind can?t  blow it over. If you put a stand light of any kind on it, the desk won?t tip but the desk is adjustable to several angles. It comes with a tool for tightening the desk as well. Sturdy is an understatement. If you sit, it can be as short as you need it. Doesn?t extend all that far, but unless you?re over 6? tall, it will
Work well.

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Toddbonester via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> I?ve been using a Petersen for about 15 years. It?s durable, super compact, has wing extenders, and holds a full folder of big band, orchestral, ensemble, or rock band charts. I?m going to get a second one in case one of my comrades leaves home without one. They?re on sale right now for about $40.00.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 4:26 PM, Philip Brink via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?My choice is the Peak folding music stand.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM John McVey via Trombone-l <
>>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've used a Manhasset Voyager for years. Get it with the stand-outs and the
>>> slide-on tray, and it is incredibly versatile.
>>> 
>>> John McVey
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 14:19 John Wasson via Trombone-l <
>>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Who has a good recommendation these days for a good strong light portable
>>>> music stand suitable for travel?
>>>> 
>>>> JOHN WASSON
>>>> composer - producer
>>>> www.johnwasson.com <http://www.johnwasson.com/>
>>>> 214.733.1912 <tel:214.733.1912>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Trombone-l mailing list
>>>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Trombone-l mailing list
>>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Philip Brink
>> Instructor of Trombone, retired
>> College of Music, Mahidol University
>> Low Brass principal, Thailand Philharmonic, retired
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
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From gil.estes at gmail.com  Thu Dec 26 08:38:13 2019
From: gil.estes at gmail.com (Gil Estes)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:38:13 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
Message-ID: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>

Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.

As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit bucket?).

My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it sanitary:

1. Towel on the floor
2. Towel/rag in a bucket
3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
4. Plant growing in a pot
5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they enter
7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be ?that? guy)
8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t welcome here)

Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?

Gil


From emandelucla at gmail.com  Thu Dec 26 08:42:30 2019
From: emandelucla at gmail.com (Elisabeth Mandel)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:42:30 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>

I use a spittoon with a towel in it. Towel gets washed regularly.

I might "upgrade" to a plant soon.

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 9:39 AM Gil Estes via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated
> to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers
> w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
>
> As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which
> has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids
> that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit
> bucket?).
>
> My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it
> sanitary:
>
> 1. Towel on the floor
> 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
> 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
> 4. Plant growing in a pot
> 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
> 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they
> enter
> 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be
> ?that? guy)
> 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t
> welcome here)
>
> Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
>
> Gil
> _______________________________________________
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From philbonium at gmail.com  Thu Dec 26 09:24:24 2019
From: philbonium at gmail.com (Phil Burton)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 08:24:24 -0700
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
	<CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGO14h7CUHu8QC-eK3aeTOpGCjPoyAhzi2QjhAZn0Sb8XozVzw@mail.gmail.com>

Rag on the floor, my friend uses wadded up old newspapers, and a small
plastic bucket.


On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 7:43 AM Elisabeth Mandel via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

> I use a spittoon with a towel in it. Towel gets washed regularly.
>
> I might "upgrade" to a plant soon.
>
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 9:39 AM Gil Estes via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
> > Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated
> > to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college
> teachers
> > w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
> >
> > As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can
> which
> > has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids
> > that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit
> > bucket?).
> >
> > My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it
> > sanitary:
> >
> > 1. Towel on the floor
> > 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
> > 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
> > 4. Plant growing in a pot
> > 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
> > 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they
> > enter
> > 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be
> > ?that? guy)
> > 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t
> > welcome here)
> >
> > Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
> >
> > Gil
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> >
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From gary.sloane at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 26 09:42:12 2019
From: gary.sloane at sbcglobal.net (Gary Sloane)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 15:42:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315530764.2399361.1577374932131@mail.yahoo.com>

 I've been emptying my spit valve into a pot containing the same begonia rex for many years, will no ill effect. The plant continues to thrive, and I don't have to deal with dirty rags, old newspapers or cleaning the floor.
YMMV,
Gary

    On Thursday, December 26, 2019, 6:39:13 AM PST, Gil Estes via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:  
 
 Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.

As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit bucket?).

My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it sanitary:

1. Towel on the floor
2. Towel/rag in a bucket
3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
4. Plant growing in a pot
5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they enter
7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be ?that? guy)
8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t welcome here)

Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?

Gil
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From pricetaylor at gmail.com  Thu Dec 26 10:04:49 2019
From: pricetaylor at gmail.com (Price Taylor)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 08:04:49 -0800
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <1315530764.2399361.1577374932131@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
	<1315530764.2399361.1577374932131@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAO9DaffnTV8JZrDnXN+kyE2rM0YRyDj+sXp9-BbO7v+Ef5TAPg@mail.gmail.com>

Like Elisabeth, I have an antique brass spitoon that I use. No towel, just
regular rinse out. After all, it is a spitoon.

And for some reason, I imagine mine came from a billiards room from at
least 50 years ago!

Price

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 7:43 AM Gary Sloane via Trombone-l <
trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:

>  I've been emptying my spit valve into a pot containing the same begonia
> rex for many years, will no ill effect. The plant continues to thrive, and
> I don't have to deal with dirty rags, old newspapers or cleaning the floor.
> YMMV,
> Gary
>
>     On Thursday, December 26, 2019, 6:39:13 AM PST, Gil Estes via
> Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>
>  Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated
> to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers
> w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
>
> As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which
> has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids
> that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit
> bucket?).
>
> My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it
> sanitary:
>
> 1. Towel on the floor
> 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
> 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
> 4. Plant growing in a pot
> 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
> 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they
> enter
> 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be
> ?that? guy)
> 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t
> welcome here)
>
> Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
>
> Gil
> _______________________________________________
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> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>
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>


From m at plunge.com  Thu Dec 26 10:08:50 2019
From: m at plunge.com (markmcgrain)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 10:08:50 -0600
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46E7BC03-8E94-49AD-958D-EC260A6E5608@plunge.com>

All of the above!  Depending on the situation (and on who?s watching!). 

I used to carry a rag/towel in my bag for those times when there might be no acceptable alternative, but putting that used towel back in my bag at the end of the gig?especially when someone was watching?would really gross me (and them) out.  A better solution is to take the outter slide off and pour the water onto the inner slide then quickly replacing the outter slide before too much spills on the hardwood floor or carpet.  It?s the art of deception as most of the water appears to be being recycled back into the horn.  When confronted, I adamantly explain that ?it?s NOT spit, it just condensation!?  Clients will sometimes buy that explanation; sometimes not. 

www.markmcgrain.com/music



> On Dec 26, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Gil Estes via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
> 
> As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit bucket?).
> 
> My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it sanitary:
> 
> 1. Towel on the floor
> 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
> 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
> 4. Plant growing in a pot
> 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
> 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they enter
> 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be ?that? guy)
> 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t welcome here)
> 
> Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
> 
> Gil
> _______________________________________________
> Trombone-l mailing list
> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org


From drbach6 at aol.com  Thu Dec 26 10:35:37 2019
From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:35:37 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
	<CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <740D6D0E-EA26-4782-8148-D73114ADC779@aol.com>

Doggie pee pads. Throw them away.

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Elisabeth Mandel via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> I use a spittoon with a towel in it. Towel gets washed regularly.
> 
> I might "upgrade" to a plant soon.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 9:39 AM Gil Estes via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
>> Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated
>> to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers
>> w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
>> 
>> As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which
>> has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids
>> that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit
>> bucket?).
>> 
>> My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it
>> sanitary:
>> 
>> 1. Towel on the floor
>> 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
>> 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
>> 4. Plant growing in a pot
>> 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
>> 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they
>> enter
>> 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be
>> ?that? guy)
>> 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t
>> welcome here)
>> 
>> Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
>> 
>> Gil
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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From drbach6 at aol.com  Thu Dec 26 10:35:37 2019
From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:35:37 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
	<CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <740D6D0E-EA26-4782-8148-D73114ADC779@aol.com>

Doggie pee pads. Throw them away.

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Elisabeth Mandel via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> I use a spittoon with a towel in it. Towel gets washed regularly.
> 
> I might "upgrade" to a plant soon.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 9:39 AM Gil Estes via Trombone-l <
> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
>> Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated
>> to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers
>> w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
>> 
>> As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which
>> has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids
>> that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit
>> bucket?).
>> 
>> My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it
>> sanitary:
>> 
>> 1. Towel on the floor
>> 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
>> 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
>> 4. Plant growing in a pot
>> 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
>> 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they
>> enter
>> 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be
>> ?that? guy)
>> 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t
>> welcome here)
>> 
>> Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
>> 
>> Gil
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org




From drbach6 at aol.com  Thu Dec 26 10:40:45 2019
From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:40:45 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <46E7BC03-8E94-49AD-958D-EC260A6E5608@plunge.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
	<46E7BC03-8E94-49AD-958D-EC260A6E5608@plunge.com>
Message-ID: <BA35541C-A544-4521-8598-C3FE0ABEAF38@aol.com>

There was a student at the middle school where I was teaching who had a cough. I asked him if he?d seen a doctor about it and he said yes. I also asked if he kept his horn clean. Also yes. Then I was watching the band in the band room one day and he put a rag on the floor to catch his spit per the band director?s request of all brass players, then I saw him pick it up and clean his mouthpiece with it and throw it back down on the floor. Eew. I walked up to him after rehearsal and made a suggestion...I said why not carry two rags. One goes on the floor, the other you use to clean your mouthpiece. Put the one on the floor in a Ziploc bag he before you put it back in your case. Cough went away.

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:08 AM, markmcgrain via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> All of the above!  Depending on the situation (and on who?s watching!). 
> 
> I used to carry a rag/towel in my bag for those times when there might be no acceptable alternative, but putting that used towel back in my bag at the end of the gig?especially when someone was watching?would really gross me (and them) out.  A better solution is to take the outter slide off and pour the water onto the inner slide then quickly replacing the outter slide before too much spills on the hardwood floor or carpet.  It?s the art of deception as most of the water appears to be being recycled back into the horn.  When confronted, I adamantly explain that ?it?s NOT spit, it just condensation!?  Clients will sometimes buy that explanation; sometimes not. 
> 
> www.markmcgrain.com/music
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Gil Estes via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
>> 
>> As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit bucket?).
>> 
>> My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it sanitary:
>> 
>> 1. Towel on the floor
>> 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
>> 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
>> 4. Plant growing in a pot
>> 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
>> 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they enter
>> 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be ?that? guy)
>> 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t welcome here)
>> 
>> Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
>> 
>> Gil
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> _______________________________________________
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> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org




From drbach6 at aol.com  Thu Dec 26 10:40:45 2019
From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 11:40:45 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <46E7BC03-8E94-49AD-958D-EC260A6E5608@plunge.com>
References: <29A93457-A6B5-48E3-8623-B58CBCB0416E@gmail.com>
	<46E7BC03-8E94-49AD-958D-EC260A6E5608@plunge.com>
Message-ID: <BA35541C-A544-4521-8598-C3FE0ABEAF38@aol.com>

There was a student at the middle school where I was teaching who had a cough. I asked him if he?d seen a doctor about it and he said yes. I also asked if he kept his horn clean. Also yes. Then I was watching the band in the band room one day and he put a rag on the floor to catch his spit per the band director?s request of all brass players, then I saw him pick it up and clean his mouthpiece with it and throw it back down on the floor. Eew. I walked up to him after rehearsal and made a suggestion...I said why not carry two rags. One goes on the floor, the other you use to clean your mouthpiece. Put the one on the floor in a Ziploc bag he before you put it back in your case. Cough went away.

Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:08 AM, markmcgrain via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> All of the above!  Depending on the situation (and on who?s watching!). 
> 
> I used to carry a rag/towel in my bag for those times when there might be no acceptable alternative, but putting that used towel back in my bag at the end of the gig?especially when someone was watching?would really gross me (and them) out.  A better solution is to take the outter slide off and pour the water onto the inner slide then quickly replacing the outter slide before too much spills on the hardwood floor or carpet.  It?s the art of deception as most of the water appears to be being recycled back into the horn.  When confronted, I adamantly explain that ?it?s NOT spit, it just condensation!?  Clients will sometimes buy that explanation; sometimes not. 
> 
> www.markmcgrain.com/music
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Gil Estes via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
>> 
>> As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit bucket?).
>> 
>> My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it sanitary:
>> 
>> 1. Towel on the floor
>> 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
>> 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
>> 4. Plant growing in a pot
>> 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
>> 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they enter
>> 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be ?that? guy)
>> 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t welcome here)
>> 
>> Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
>> 
>> Gil
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
> _______________________________________________
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> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org




From toddbonester at gmail.com  Thu Dec 26 16:48:21 2019
From: toddbonester at gmail.com (Toddbonester)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 17:48:21 -0500
Subject: [Trombone-l] Water Key Solutions
In-Reply-To: <CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHjf-GH-tszxQ0fM49c_f4kPS3tOYbNO7ZLBoR_3=FE=WZgQhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9BCA736B-1903-4292-9463-E5B2AEA16B37@gmail.com>

I often mention to my brass students that I should have a couple of house plants nearby to empty their water into. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Elisabeth Mandel via Trombone-l <trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I use a spittoon with a towel in it. Towel gets washed regularly.
> 
> I might "upgrade" to a plant soon.
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 9:39 AM Gil Estes via Trombone-l <
>> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, for those who have a home studio (i.e. room in your home dedicated
>> to practicing and doing all things ?trombone?) as well as college teachers
>> w/ a dedicated room for doing trombone stuff?this question is for you.
>> 
>> As I clean my horns after having the flu, I also notice my trash can which
>> has a towel in the bottom which is used specifically for residual liquids
>> that come from my slide after a practice/warm-up session (i.e. ?spit
>> bucket?).
>> 
>> My question: Where do you empty your ?water key? and how do you keep it
>> sanitary:
>> 
>> 1. Towel on the floor
>> 2. Towel/rag in a bucket
>> 3. Actual old-school ?spittoon?
>> 4. Plant growing in a pot
>> 5. On the carpet?b/c it will dry eventually
>> 6. On the hard surface floor?b/c I like watching people slip when they
>> enter
>> 7. My spit valve leaks enough that I don?t need to empty it (don?t be
>> ?that? guy)
>> 8. I never empty it?b/c I like the popping sound (get out?you aren?t
>> welcome here)
>> 
>> Seriously though?for good hygiene, what have you found that works well?
>> 
>> Gil
>> _______________________________________________
>> Trombone-l mailing list
>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org
>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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