From horton.raymond at gmail.com Tue May 1 19:08:43 2018 From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton) Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 20:08:43 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Works by RAYMOND HORTON for Trombone Message-ID: ? ? *Works by RAYMOND HORTON for Trombone:* *RECENTLY PUBLISHED by rayhortonmusic.com :* *Fanfare in B-flat* for Three Trombones and Orchestra - for Trombones and Concert Band for Trombones and Brass Band - for Three Trombones and Piano *Bright and showy but not overly difficult. Use three or a section - a ?Trombonist?s Holiday? for a new era.* ------- *Episodes - for Trombone Quartet* Two movements: ?I - Annunciation? - Bright! ?II - ?Reflection; Confrontation? - A quiet beginning to a stormy ending in three intense minutes. All four parts are interesting; Trombone 1 is a blow! Challenging! *Recorded by the Elysian Trombone Consort - **soon to be released* ------- *Check rayhortonmusic.com for more Trombone Quartets* ------- *N. Rimsky-Korsakov: Concerto for Trombone and Orchestra* Transcribed by Raymond Horton from the *Concerto for Trombone and Wind Orchestra* *Finally,** a playable, legible, affordable & easily obtainable* orchestral version of this classic concerto. *For large chamber orchestra or full orchestra. Sounds great right out of the box - buy it!* ------- *PUBLISHED by Cimarron Music Press at cimarronmusic.com :* *Trombone and Piano:* Traditional, arranged Horton: "Were You There" *(Suitable for church or recital, makes a moving impression wherever it is played. Tough piano part!)* ------- *Trombone Trios:* William Byrd / Horton: "The Carman's Whistle" *One pro said "The best trombone trio I've ever played!"* J. Wilbye / Horton: "As Fair as Morn"* Playable by good high school students. Enjoyable.* ------- *Trombone Quartets:* J. Bennet: ?Two Madrigals? *One slow, one fast. Slow one is easy and beautiful.* William Byrd / Horton: "The Carman's Whistle" *Same as the trio, but less difficult, fuller-sounding.* William Byrd / Horton: "Look Down, 0 Lord" *Playable by high school students, great for church.* Di Lasso / Horton: "Carmina Chromatico? Incredible study in modulation - slow and dramatic! Traditional French / Horton: "Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silent" *Beautiful tune, beautiful treatment*. *Trombone profs from a national workshop audience called Cimarron for this before it was available - really!* *Recorded by the Elysian Trombone Consort on a soon to be released solo CD by Timothy Anderson* ------- *Euphonium/Tuba Quartet, Trombone Quartet, or Three Trombones and Tuba:* William Byrd / Horton: ?Five Pieces from The Battel? *(published by Cimarron as a Trombone Quartet only)* *Byrd at his ?nest. Euphs and tubas can use suggested embellishments to make this a tour de force.* ----------------------------------------------------------- *RAYMOND HORTON,* now retired as performer, was Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra for 45 years (1971-2016). Most prestigious composition award: *"Special Judge's Citation Recognizing Unique Artistic Achievement"* * from The 2012 American Prize in Composition: Orchestra Division (Professional) for Make Gentle the Life of This World Using the speech by Senator Robert Kennedy on the night of the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.. * ? Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com From jazzvermont at comcast.net Wed May 2 16:19:53 2018 From: jazzvermont at comcast.net (BYRON SIEGAL) Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 17:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Trombone-l] Jazz Camp-Trombone Openings-Save Message-ID: <1837245132.518431.1525295994186@connect.xfinity.com> Jazz Camp, the 5 1/2 day Band Camp for Grownups has openings for both bass and tenor trombonists for its summer session August 12-17, 2018 at the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Warwick, RI. Join one of our 9 bands and wail the week away with like minded musicians. Featuring Tromboists, Down Beat Award winner Steve Davis, Jeff Galindo and jazz improv teacher Jerry Bergonzi. 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May the 4th be with you!!!! https://youtu.be/y51hgdhrLHk James Nova Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras jimnova.com From chris.waage at gmail.com Mon May 7 08:05:18 2018 From: chris.waage at gmail.com (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:05:18 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 5/7/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 8:03 AM CDT on May 7, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. NEVER send payment by Western Union, Money Gram or other wire services or bank transfer!!!! If the prospective buyer or seller uses the terms MoneyGram, Western Union, courier, or "pick-up agent," it is a SCAM. 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Chris Waage -- OTJ Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/ From jfbermann at gmail.com Tue May 8 14:22:26 2018 From: jfbermann at gmail.com (Jim Bermann) Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 15:22:26 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bach Bells Message-ID: Hi All, Just discovered an interesting phenomenon. I was comparing Bach bells, Corporation, early Elkhart after the Corporation had been dissolved and the designation removed from the product and current bells. I had taken a magnet and it stuck to the rims of the Corp. and early Elkhart bell but not the current bell. These bells play better and I believe it is due to using a steel wire in the rim which was apparently used in the Mt. Vernon and New York bells as well. Jim Bermann From bach9lt at gmail.com Tue May 8 21:11:28 2018 From: bach9lt at gmail.com (john bailey) Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 22:11:28 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bach Bells In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Checked three NY two MV and one Corporation (gold brass) and no magnetic attraction at the rim except for the Corp. I'm surprised. I can hear Bruce Gutman complaining "Electrolysis!" already. John On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l < trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > Hi All, > Just discovered an interesting phenomenon. > I was comparing Bach bells, Corporation, > early Elkhart after the Corporation had been > dissolved and the designation removed from > the product and current bells. I had taken a > magnet and it stuck to the rims of the Corp. > and early Elkhart bell but not the current bell. These bells play better > and I believe it > is due to using a steel wire in the rim which > was apparently used in the Mt. Vernon and > New York bells as well. > Jim Bermann > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > From jfbermann at gmail.com Tue May 8 21:18:53 2018 From: jfbermann at gmail.com (Jim Bermann) Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 22:18:53 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bach Bells In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D457C5C-1388-496D-81C3-2E649993D414@gmail.com> Hi John, Interesting, I had no access to Mt. Vernon or New York bells to compare. My Corporation Bells are from the late 60?s and and the non corporation bell is from the late 70?s all magnetic. Jim Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2018, at 10:11 PM, john bailey wrote: > > Checked three NY two MV and one Corporation (gold brass) and no magnetic attraction at the rim except for the Corp. > > I'm surprised. I can hear Bruce Gutman complaining "Electrolysis!" already. > > John > > > >> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l wrote: >> Hi All, >> Just discovered an interesting phenomenon. >> I was comparing Bach bells, Corporation, >> early Elkhart after the Corporation had been >> dissolved and the designation removed from >> the product and current bells. I had taken a >> magnet and it stuck to the rims of the Corp. >> and early Elkhart bell but not the current bell. These bells play better and I believe it >> is due to using a steel wire in the rim which >> was apparently used in the Mt. Vernon and >> New York bells as well. >> Jim Bermann >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > From joestanko at gmail.com Tue May 8 21:46:44 2018 From: joestanko at gmail.com (Joe Stanko) Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 22:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bach Bells In-Reply-To: <1D457C5C-1388-496D-81C3-2E649993D414@gmail.com> References: <1D457C5C-1388-496D-81C3-2E649993D414@gmail.com> Message-ID: The rims may have been unsoldered, hence no bead wire..are they French beads? On Tuesday, May 8, 2018, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l < trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > Hi John, > Interesting, I had no access to Mt. > Vernon or New York bells to compare. > My Corporation Bells are from the late > 60?s and and the non corporation > bell is from the late 70?s all magnetic. > Jim > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 8, 2018, at 10:11 PM, john bailey wrote: > > > > Checked three NY two MV and one Corporation (gold brass) and no magnetic > attraction at the rim except for the Corp. > > > > I'm surprised. I can hear Bruce Gutman complaining "Electrolysis!" > already. > > > > John > > > > > > > >> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l < > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> Just discovered an interesting phenomenon. > >> I was comparing Bach bells, Corporation, > >> early Elkhart after the Corporation had been > >> dissolved and the designation removed from > >> the product and current bells. I had taken a > >> magnet and it stuck to the rims of the Corp. > >> and early Elkhart bell but not the current bell. These bells play > better and I believe it > >> is due to using a steel wire in the rim which > >> was apparently used in the Mt. Vernon and > >> New York bells as well. > >> Jim Bermann > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Trombone-l mailing list > >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > From drbach6 at aol.com Tue May 8 22:21:23 2018 From: drbach6 at aol.com (Linda Landis) Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 23:21:23 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bach Bells In-Reply-To: References: <1D457C5C-1388-496D-81C3-2E649993D414@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have a ?53 Mt Vernon 6vii and no magnetic attraction on my soldered bell rim. Linda Landis, Lead Trombone Columbus Jazz Orchestra, Columbus Symphony, Private Teacher > On May 8, 2018, at 10:46 PM, Joe Stanko via Trombone-l wrote: > > The rims may have been unsoldered, hence no bead wire..are they French > beads? > > On Tuesday, May 8, 2018, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l < > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > >> Hi John, >> Interesting, I had no access to Mt. >> Vernon or New York bells to compare. >> My Corporation Bells are from the late >> 60?s and and the non corporation >> bell is from the late 70?s all magnetic. >> Jim >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 8, 2018, at 10:11 PM, john bailey wrote: >>> >>> Checked three NY two MV and one Corporation (gold brass) and no magnetic >> attraction at the rim except for the Corp. >>> >>> I'm surprised. I can hear Bruce Gutman complaining "Electrolysis!" >> already. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l < >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> Just discovered an interesting phenomenon. >>>> I was comparing Bach bells, Corporation, >>>> early Elkhart after the Corporation had been >>>> dissolved and the designation removed from >>>> the product and current bells. I had taken a >>>> magnet and it stuck to the rims of the Corp. >>>> and early Elkhart bell but not the current bell. These bells play >> better and I believe it >>>> is due to using a steel wire in the rim which >>>> was apparently used in the Mt. Vernon and >>>> New York bells as well. >>>> Jim Bermann >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Trombone-l mailing list >>>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org >>>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From jfbermann at gmail.com Wed May 9 00:23:49 2018 From: jfbermann at gmail.com (Jim Bermann) Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 01:23:49 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bach Bells In-Reply-To: References: <1D457C5C-1388-496D-81C3-2E649993D414@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51D4A1C0-EE8A-4D24-9674-AC61D7D73512@gmail.com> Hi Joe, That?s what I?m thinking, no wire. Jim Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2018, at 10:46 PM, Joe Stanko wrote: > > The rims may have been unsoldered, hence no bead wire..are they French beads? > >> On Tuesday, May 8, 2018, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l wrote: >> Hi John, >> Interesting, I had no access to Mt. >> Vernon or New York bells to compare. >> My Corporation Bells are from the late >> 60?s and and the non corporation >> bell is from the late 70?s all magnetic. >> Jim >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On May 8, 2018, at 10:11 PM, john bailey wrote: >> > >> > Checked three NY two MV and one Corporation (gold brass) and no magnetic attraction at the rim except for the Corp. >> > >> > I'm surprised. I can hear Bruce Gutman complaining "Electrolysis!" already. >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Just discovered an interesting phenomenon. >> >> I was comparing Bach bells, Corporation, >> >> early Elkhart after the Corporation had been >> >> dissolved and the designation removed from >> >> the product and current bells. I had taken a >> >> magnet and it stuck to the rims of the Corp. >> >> and early Elkhart bell but not the current bell. These bells play better and I believe it >> >> is due to using a steel wire in the rim which >> >> was apparently used in the Mt. Vernon and >> >> New York bells as well. >> >> Jim Bermann >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Trombone-l mailing list >> >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org >> >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From art at awtriggs.com Wed May 9 04:59:14 2018 From: art at awtriggs.com (Art Triggs) Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 09:59:14 +0000 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bach Bells In-Reply-To: <51D4A1C0-EE8A-4D24-9674-AC61D7D73512@gmail.com> References: <1D457C5C-1388-496D-81C3-2E649993D414@gmail.com> <51D4A1C0-EE8A-4D24-9674-AC61D7D73512@gmail.com> Message-ID: There is also the possibility that a brass wire was used, anyone want to break an mv bach bell to find out?? (JK) Art On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 01:25 Jim Bermann via Trombone-l < trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > Hi Joe, > That?s what I?m thinking, no wire. > Jim > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 8, 2018, at 10:46 PM, Joe Stanko wrote: > > > > The rims may have been unsoldered, hence no bead wire..are they French > beads? > > > >> On Tuesday, May 8, 2018, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l < > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > >> Hi John, > >> Interesting, I had no access to Mt. > >> Vernon or New York bells to compare. > >> My Corporation Bells are from the late > >> 60?s and and the non corporation > >> bell is from the late 70?s all magnetic. > >> Jim > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > On May 8, 2018, at 10:11 PM, john bailey wrote: > >> > > >> > Checked three NY two MV and one Corporation (gold brass) and no > magnetic attraction at the rim except for the Corp. > >> > > >> > I'm surprised. I can hear Bruce Gutman complaining "Electrolysis!" > already. > >> > > >> > John > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Jim Bermann via Trombone-l < > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > >> >> Hi All, > >> >> Just discovered an interesting phenomenon. > >> >> I was comparing Bach bells, Corporation, > >> >> early Elkhart after the Corporation had been > >> >> dissolved and the designation removed from > >> >> the product and current bells. I had taken a > >> >> magnet and it stuck to the rims of the Corp. > >> >> and early Elkhart bell but not the current bell. These bells play > better and I believe it > >> >> is due to using a steel wire in the rim which > >> >> was apparently used in the Mt. Vernon and > >> >> New York bells as well. > >> >> Jim Bermann > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Trombone-l mailing list > >> >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > >> >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Trombone-l mailing list > >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > -- Art Triggs 914-819-8432 art at awtriggs.com www.awtriggs.com From gil.estes at gmail.com Thu May 10 10:47:49 2018 From: gil.estes at gmail.com (Gil Estes) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 11:47:49 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Tower of Power 3 horn Message-ID: <86C890C6-36D4-4D79-B8C0-4CA882D9E6BC@gmail.com> I appeal to the collective intellect of the trombone world for help? I play in a 3- horn cover band (trumpet-trombone-sax) and we are looking for some Tower of Power charts, well arranged for some of the more up-beat funk ones?such as: Soul w/ a Capital ?S? What is Hip etc? Any suggestions? Shoot me an email? and thx in advance? Gil Estes From jscot at ucalgary.ca Thu May 10 12:50:42 2018 From: jscot at ucalgary.ca (James L Scott) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:50:42 +0000 Subject: [Trombone-l] Trombone Forum? Message-ID: Hi All - Just wondering if anyone out there knows what's happening with the Forum? Anyone have any idea of when/if it will be back up and running? Jim Scott From studer_je at hotmail.com Thu May 10 13:05:06 2018 From: studer_je at hotmail.com (Jon Studer) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:05:06 +0000 Subject: [Trombone-l] Trombone Forum? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Has it been down for a while? I don?t visit it often. Back in late March, someone mention this alternative site here on the list. http://www.trombonechat.com/ On May 10, 2018, at 10:51, James L Scott via Trombone-l > wrote: Hi All - Just wondering if anyone out there knows what's happening with the Forum? Anyone have any idea of when/if it will be back up and running? Jim Scott _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l at trombonelist.org https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftrombonelist.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftrombone-l_trombonelist.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C74a7e71311c1439fa03908d5b69eb350%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636615715086792225&sdata=mmGzMuwJhqmfGe3X9QpbiwFHuOJi6qPvcz7g6obTrqI%3D&reserved=0 From Eric at proinstrumentrepair.com Thu May 10 13:10:02 2018 From: Eric at proinstrumentrepair.com (Eric) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 13:10:02 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] Trombone Forum? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: More than likely,? it's gone.? The trombonechat.com is up & running and has quite a bit of the forum archived and available. Eric Eric Edwards Professional Instrument Repair 972.795.5784 "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price has faded" "The wise man, when he holds his tongue, says more than the fool when he speaks" "If you must choose between two evils,? choose the one you haven't tried yet." "Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud." -Sophocles -- Eric, Leandra, Sara, Jared & Lily Edwards "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price has faded" "The wise man, when he holds his tongue, says more than the fool when he speaks" "If you must choose between two evils,? choose the one you haven't tried yet." "Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud." -Sophocles -------- Original message --------From: James L Scott via Trombone-l Date: 5/10/18 12:50 PM (GMT-06:00) To: trombone-l at trombonelist.org Subject: [Trombone-l] Trombone Forum? Hi All - Just wondering if anyone out there knows what's happening with the Forum? Anyone have any idea of when/if it will be back up and running? Jim Scott _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l at trombonelist.org http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From horton.raymond at gmail.com Thu May 10 16:05:35 2018 From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 21:05:35 +0000 Subject: [Trombone-l] Another trombone support besides ergobone? Message-ID: I have used the Ergobone for many years, and fully credit it with saving my career. A friend asked about it. I referred him to the the Ergobrass site, but I remember seeing a competing version, that was bent rather than straight, that looked like it might have some advantages. Not interested for myself, Ergobone works fine for me, and I am not playing full-time anymore, but if there is an improved version I would like to recommend it to my friend. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? ?Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com From emrose79 at sonic.net Thu May 10 16:14:44 2018 From: emrose79 at sonic.net (emrose79 at sonic.net) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:14:44 -0700 Subject: [Trombone-l] Egrobone Message-ID: <028a01d3e8a3$eca02d70$c5e08850$@sonic.net> Ray, You're referring to the TromboneSpineSaver. Jonathan Holtfreter https://www.trombonespinesaver.com/ He's very helpful in getting it set-up. I have one, but my problem is with my right elbow, so it didn't help. Ed Sent from my Haag 45HV-M&W 929 1Y From horton.raymond at gmail.com Thu May 10 16:19:59 2018 From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 21:19:59 +0000 Subject: [Trombone-l] Egrobone In-Reply-To: <028a01d3e8a3$eca02d70$c5e08850$@sonic.net> References: <028a01d3e8a3$eca02d70$c5e08850$@sonic.net> Message-ID: That's it! Thanks, Jonathan! Has anybody had any experience comparing the two items? ?Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com On Thu, May 10, 2018, 5:15 PM emrose79--- via Trombone-l < trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > Ray, You're referring to the TromboneSpineSaver. Jonathan Holtfreter > > https://www.trombonespinesaver.com/ > > > > He's very helpful in getting it set-up. I have one, but my problem is with > my right elbow, so it didn't help. > > > > Ed > > > > Sent from my Haag 45HV-M&W 929 1Y > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > From jmholtfreter at comcast.net Thu May 10 17:36:50 2018 From: jmholtfreter at comcast.net (Jonathan Holtfreter) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:36:50 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Egrobone In-Reply-To: References: <028a01d3e8a3$eca02d70$c5e08850$@sonic.net> Message-ID: <876DBE34-A532-475A-98D1-C076BC160ABA@comcast.net> Dear Raymond, On my web site trombonespinesaver.com, I have provided a comparison of Ergo & TSS as I own and have used both. It is, admittedly, biased as TSS is my product; however, it may bring certain things to light. Best to you, Jonathan Holtfreter Inventor TromboneSpineSaver Sent from my iPhone > On May 10, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Raymond Horton via Trombone-l wrote: > > That's it! Thanks, Jonathan! > > Has anybody had any experience comparing the two items? > > ?Raymond Horton > Composer, Arranger > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church > Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 > Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com > > On Thu, May 10, 2018, 5:15 PM emrose79--- via Trombone-l < > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > >> Ray, You're referring to the TromboneSpineSaver. Jonathan Holtfreter >> >> https://www.trombonespinesaver.com/ >> >> >> >> He's very helpful in getting it set-up. I have one, but my problem is with >> my right elbow, so it didn't help. >> >> >> >> Ed >> >> >> >> Sent from my Haag 45HV-M&W 929 1Y >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Trombone-l mailing list >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From horton.raymond at gmail.com Thu May 10 19:37:57 2018 From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 20:37:57 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Egrobone In-Reply-To: <876DBE34-A532-475A-98D1-C076BC160ABA@comcast.net> References: <028a01d3e8a3$eca02d70$c5e08850$@sonic.net> <876DBE34-A532-475A-98D1-C076BC160ABA@comcast.net> Message-ID: OK thanks! ?Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Jonathan Holtfreter < jmholtfreter at comcast.net> wrote: > Dear Raymond, > > On my web site trombonespinesaver.com, I have provided a comparison of > Ergo & TSS as I own and have used both. It is, admittedly, biased as TSS > is my product; however, it may bring certain things to light. > > Best to you, > > Jonathan Holtfreter > Inventor > TromboneSpineSaver > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 10, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Raymond Horton via Trombone-l < > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > > > > That's it! Thanks, Jonathan! > > > > Has anybody had any experience comparing the two items? > > > > ?Raymond Horton > > Composer, Arranger > > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church > > Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 > > Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018, 5:15 PM emrose79--- via Trombone-l < > > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > > > >> Ray, You're referring to the TromboneSpineSaver. Jonathan Holtfreter > >> > >> https://www.trombonespinesaver.com/ > >> > >> > >> > >> He's very helpful in getting it set-up. I have one, but my problem is > with > >> my right elbow, so it didn't help. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ed > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my Haag 45HV-M&W 929 1Y > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Trombone-l mailing list > >> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > >> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Trombone-l mailing list > > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > > From hartleyjw at goldengate.net Fri May 11 08:57:10 2018 From: hartleyjw at goldengate.net (Hartley Jesse W.) Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 08:57:10 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] Music request Message-ID: <737B12E3-578E-448A-869B-088E49C2ED4F@goldengate.net> Would someone be able to scan and send me a copy of the Trombone-3 part for: George M. Cohen Patriotic Fantasy Arr. Walter Ehret and Paul Yoder The community band I play in is missing the Trombone-3 part and the bassoon part just isn?t the same. Thanks, -Jess Jess Hartley Lake Elmo, MN 55042 email: hartleyjw at goldengate.net From chris at trombone.org Mon May 14 08:06:33 2018 From: chris at trombone.org (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 08:06:33 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 5/14/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 8:04 AM CDT on May 14, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. NEVER send payment by Western Union, Money Gram or other wire services or bank transfer!!!! If the prospective buyer or seller uses the terms MoneyGram, Western Union, courier, or "pick-up agent," it is a SCAM. Most scams involve an inquiry from someone wanting you to take a cashier's check or money order and quite often a badly-worded request to buy your item. 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Chris Waage -- OTJ Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/ From mh at janitsjar.net Mon May 14 08:58:22 2018 From: mh at janitsjar.net (=?utf-8?Q?Marius_Helg=C3=A5?=) Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 15:58:22 +0200 Subject: [Trombone-l] Mahler 1 Message-ID: <849420DD-D209-485F-A647-7591EF803BF1@janitsjar.net> Hi, all I was wondering what is the ?normal? way of organising the four trombonists in Mahler 1? Is the one playing the 4th part usually waiting through the entire symphony to just play the ending, or will he/she usually double some bits of some of the other parts? In what order are the players usually seated? 4-1-2-3 doesn?t seem too stupid for me, but I realise that makes you lose the close connection between trumpet 1 and trombone 1. I understand there probably are no exact answer here, but would love to hear how this is usually solved, especially with amateur orchestras. Marius Helg? Bass Trombone Oslo/Mo i Rana, Norway From walttrombone at me.com Mon May 14 09:18:50 2018 From: walttrombone at me.com (Walter Barrett) Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 10:18:50 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Mahler 1 In-Reply-To: <849420DD-D209-485F-A647-7591EF803BF1@janitsjar.net> References: <849420DD-D209-485F-A647-7591EF803BF1@janitsjar.net> Message-ID: <4D720B9D-9DC8-49F8-B32C-7CEE2C371251@me.com> Honestly, the last time I played it, we left the 4th part out. With a slightly underpowered string section, the three of us had more than enough gas at the end, and the part is doubled in the other trombones and horns. ?? If I were to do it with four, I would sit as you described, 4,1,2,3. Yes, you are a bit farther away from the trumpet, but I?d rather have the second and third trombones be able to hear me as usual. I might also have the 4th player double my part on unisons, or play them in my place, at least in the beginning of the last movement, so that he?d be better prepared to play with at least a little warm up. Walter Barrett ??? walterbarrett.com Yamaha Performing Artist > On May 14, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Marius Helg? via Trombone-l wrote: > > Hi, all > > I was wondering what is the ?normal? way of organising the four trombonists in Mahler 1? > Is the one playing the 4th part usually waiting through the entire symphony to just play the ending, or will he/she usually double some bits of some of the other parts? > In what order are the players usually seated? 4-1-2-3 doesn?t seem too stupid for me, but I realise that makes you lose the close connection between trumpet 1 and trombone 1. > > I understand there probably are no exact answer here, but would love to hear how this is usually solved, especially with amateur orchestras. > > Marius Helg? > Bass Trombone > Oslo/Mo i Rana, Norway > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From jim at jimnova.com Fri May 18 07:37:18 2018 From: jim at jimnova.com (Jim Nova) Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 08:37:18 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Duquesne Summer Brass Intensive! Message-ID: <62B559F1-5081-4E5D-A417-284F878C97A4@jimnova.com> Attention young brass musicians! Click this video to hear about this wonderful new program! https://youtu.be/TJiv_l8UZZ8 We?d love to welcome you to the first ever Summer Brass Intensive with musicians from the Grammy Award-winning Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra. This summer day camp experience will take place from July 16th - 20th at the Mary Pappert School of Music on the campus of Duquesne University. -Learn firsthand from acclaimed PSO musicians and amazing guest artists -Hone your solo, band, orchestra and chamber music skills in a positive, encouraging environment -Participate in guided warmups, studio classes and brass ensembles -Enjoy special performances and presentations by the PSO brass and wonderful guest artists -Lunch provided daily For more info and registration, visit: http://www.duq.edu/academics/schools/music/city-music-center/cmc-summer-music We hope to see you there! James Nova Trombone - Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra Brass Area Coordinator and Adjunct Trombone Faculty - Duquesne University Brass Coach - Three Rivers Young Peoples Orchestras jimnova.com From chris at trombone.org Mon May 21 00:04:30 2018 From: chris at trombone.org (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 00:04:30 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 5/21/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 12:01 AM CDT on May 21, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. NEVER send payment by Western Union, Money Gram or other wire services or bank transfer!!!! If the prospective buyer or seller uses the terms MoneyGram, Western Union, courier, or "pick-up agent," it is a SCAM. Most scams involve an inquiry from someone wanting you to take a cashier's check or money order and quite often a badly-worded request to buy your item. 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Atlanta Community Brass Ensemble Sunday, June 3rd, 7:00 or 7:30 PM Symphony Hall in the Woodruff Arts Center, Atlanta, GA Admission is Free https://goo.gl/maps/tumuUGsbYys From chris at trombone.org Mon May 28 08:26:24 2018 From: chris at trombone.org (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 08:26:24 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 5/28/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 8:24 AM CDT on May 28, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. NEVER send payment by Western Union, Money Gram or other wire services or bank transfer!!!! If the prospective buyer or seller uses the terms MoneyGram, Western Union, courier, or "pick-up agent," it is a SCAM. Most scams involve an inquiry from someone wanting you to take a cashier's check or money order and quite often a badly-worded request to buy your item. Most of these e-mails show no knowledge of what they are buying. Be sure to get phone numbers, check references - take care when buying and selling online! If you have been victimized, you can contact the FTC toll-free at 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357) or use the complaint form at www.ftc.gov, or contact your local law enforcement agency. For additional information, please visit the OTJ Classifieds FAQ at: http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp Remember - if the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. OTJ Classifieds Frequently Asked Questions http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp If you have any questions or comments about the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds, please contact me at chris at trombone.org. Chris Waage -- OTJ Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/ From horton.raymond at gmail.com Mon May 28 22:59:06 2018 From: horton.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Horton) Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 23:59:06 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] CIMBASSO BARGAIN!!! Message-ID: CIMBASSO BARGAIN!!! Cerveny CVT-576 F Valve Bass Trombone* - ONLY $1900 (*Cerveny calls their straight model a "valve bass trombone" and the bent version of the identical instrument CVT 576-4CPX (Note the nearly identical model number) a "cimbasso," but the straight horn is much cheaper, for whatever reason. This sale includes several improvements by NRE Master Craftsman Norm Epley: n Added tubing to bring pitch down to A=440 (the new horn is very sharp) n Two tuning slide triggers (1st and 4th valves) With these alterations the horn plays very well in tune. This sale also includes: n Contrabass trombone stand by Hornguys of LA ($60 value - for resting the instrument while not playing) n ErgoBone stand ($150 value - to hold horn while playing) (note- this is the floor stand - the chest stand will not work with this horn) Why so cheap, with all of these extras? Ray bought this when it was temporarily cheaper (currency fluctuations). He played it on the KY Opera?s ?Otello? where it got very favorable comments from other musicians and audience members. Then the KY Opera changed staff, stopped hiring an extra trombonist for Italian operas, and gave the Cimbasso part to the tubist. Now you can gain from Ray?s loss! This horn has a euro shank (in between large and small shank trombone). Euro mouthpiece included - Cerveny ?3G?, PLUS ONE, your choice, from the following: n Bach 1 1/4 G (bass trombone) used n Bach 2G (bass trombone) used n Holton 1 1/2 G (bass trombone) used n Doug Elliot shank - custom bored out by Norm - should fit your Elliot mouthpiece upper (slightly used) n Tuba mouthpiece to be named later - custom shank-fit by Norm (used) You may consider getting the shank changed to a large trombone or tuba shank, but it worked fine for me with the bored-out Doug Elliot shank and a 114-K bass trombone upper. This horn barks at f like a cimbasso should, and plays a rich low sound at p . Email Ray for the links to pictures, demo video and more information: horton.raymond at gmail.com New, the unimproved horn would cost you $2343.95:(? 2.190,00) http://www.cerveny.biz/ventilposaune/cvt_571_4.php IF you can find it (Musician?s Friend sometimes lists it as ?currently unavailable.") Other Cimbassi list on Hornguys.com for $9K to $14K. ?Raymond Horton Composer, Arranger Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016 Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com