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Chris Waage -- OTJ Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/ From chris.waage at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 07:49:21 2018 From: chris.waage at gmail.com (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 07:49:21 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bill Watrous Message-ID: In 1981, one of my high school band directors (Danny Hall) gave me a copy of a compilation album called "Bill Watrous" with recordings of songs from his two big band albums with the Manhattan Wildlife Refuge. In 1982, Bill was playing at Crown Center in Kansas City, and I had the opportunity to meet him. He treated a dumb 18-year old as a peer and shared stories for several hours after the concert. Even though I'm a dyed in the wool bass trombonist, he's always been one of my influences. Today, his son Jason posted that Bill is close to passing. Please keep his family in your thoughts and prayers today. -- *Chris Waage, DMA* Music Director, Lexington Wind Symphony, Lexington, Missouri Freelance teacher, clinician. and low brass artist From craig at parmerlee.com Mon Jul 2 09:54:28 2018 From: craig at parmerlee.com (Craig Parmerlee) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 10:54:28 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bill Watrous In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98c1fef0-8504-cc55-f5f4-6ad4059d9864@parmerlee.com> I am very sorry to hear that.? Few people, in any field of endeavor, have had more influence on their colleagues than Bill Watrous. On 7/2/2018 8:49 AM, Chris Waage via Trombone-l wrote: > In 1981, one of my high school band directors (Danny Hall) gave me a copy > of a compilation album called "Bill Watrous" with recordings of songs from > his two big band albums with the Manhattan Wildlife Refuge. > > In 1982, Bill was playing at Crown Center in Kansas City, and I had the > opportunity to meet him. He treated a dumb 18-year old as a peer and shared > stories for several hours after the concert. Even though I'm a dyed in the > wool bass trombonist, he's always been one of my influences. > > Today, his son Jason posted that Bill is close to passing. Please keep his > family in your thoughts and prayers today. > > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jfendrick at bak.rr.com Mon Jul 2 10:00:44 2018 From: jfendrick at bak.rr.com (Randolph Fendrick) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 08:00:44 -0700 Subject: [Trombone-l] Bill Watrous In-Reply-To: <98c1fef0-8504-cc55-f5f4-6ad4059d9864@parmerlee.com> References: <98c1fef0-8504-cc55-f5f4-6ad4059d9864@parmerlee.com> Message-ID: I hadn?t heard that. Bill and I were in the Navy School of Music together in 1958, and our paths have crossed many times since then. Too bad, a absolutely wonderful player. I also heard recently that Andy Martin was sick and not playing, does anyone have any info regarding Martin? later, rf > On Jul 2, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Craig Parmerlee via Trombone-l wrote: > > I am very sorry to hear that. Few people, in any field of endeavor, have had more influence on their colleagues than Bill Watrous. > > > > On 7/2/2018 8:49 AM, Chris Waage via Trombone-l wrote: >> In 1981, one of my high school band directors (Danny Hall) gave me a copy >> of a compilation album called "Bill Watrous" with recordings of songs from >> his two big band albums with the Manhattan Wildlife Refuge. >> >> In 1982, Bill was playing at Crown Center in Kansas City, and I had the >> opportunity to meet him. He treated a dumb 18-year old as a peer and shared >> stories for several hours after the concert. Even though I'm a dyed in the >> wool bass trombonist, he's always been one of my influences. >> >> Today, his son Jason posted that Bill is close to passing. Please keep his >> family in your thoughts and prayers today. >> >> >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From jazzvermont at comcast.net Mon Jul 2 15:50:20 2018 From: jazzvermont at comcast.net (BYRON SIEGAL) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 16:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Trombone-l] Its' not too late for Jazz Camp! Message-ID: <1122221920.333658.1530564621125@connect.xfinity.com> Okay, you've been waiting, trying to see what your schedule is going to be, needing to figure out the money issue. TIME's UP! Come join one of our eight bands at Jazz Camp 2018! Featuring Down Beat award winner, Steve Davis and Esperanza Spaulding sideman Jeff Galindo on trombone and jazz improv instructor and tenor sax player, Jerry Bergonzi. Mention this post for an additional $75.00 discount. Byron Siegal, Director Jazz Camphttp://www.jazzcamp.com 800 242-8785 From beldon.wade at comcast.net Tue Jul 3 15:31:13 2018 From: beldon.wade at comcast.net (BELDON WADE) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Trombone-l] On another subject altogether, M. Ravel and Scherazade In-Reply-To: References: <98c1fef0-8504-cc55-f5f4-6ad4059d9864@parmerlee.com> Message-ID: <1336122924.323071.1530649873285@connect.xfinity.com> onelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org last evening on WBAA Radio of Purdue University: M. Ravel's rendition of the piece, which received terrible reviews in Paris, so much that he never completed the opera was played late night. Some of the complaints were that the composition was rocky. Also a new Clarinet intro was introduced. This was about 13 minutes which has been questioned as too long for an overture. To the point: what I heard in the presentation was at that time outstandingly different. It reminded me of a rendition of Second Raposody of Gershwin and certain patterns found in the Rapsody in Blue. Ravel was a lone precursor of the future. any comments???? pardon the misspellings. beldon wade From keyser at mit.edu Tue Jul 3 15:46:50 2018 From: keyser at mit.edu (Samuel Jay Keyser) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:46:50 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] On another subject altogether, M. Ravel and Scherazade In-Reply-To: <1336122924.323071.1530649873285@connect.xfinity.com> References: <98c1fef0-8504-cc55-f5f4-6ad4059d9864@parmerlee.com> <1336122924.323071.1530649873285@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Dear Beldon, The URL you gave doesn?t work. But leaving that to one side, I couldn?t agree with you more. Ravel was way ahead of his time. I?ll go back and listen to it. > On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:31 PM, BELDON WADE via Trombone-l wrote: > > onelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > > last evening on WBAA Radio of Purdue University: M. Ravel's rendition of the piece, which received terrible reviews in Paris, so much that he never completed the opera was played late night. Some of the complaints were that the composition was rocky. Also a new Clarinet intro was introduced. > > This was about 13 minutes which has been questioned as too long for an overture. > > To the point: what I heard in the presentation was at that time outstandingly different. It reminded me of a rendition of Second Raposody of Gershwin and certain patterns found in the Rapsody in Blue. Ravel was a lone precursor of the future. > > any comments???? > > pardon the misspellings. > > beldon wade > > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From jfbermann at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 08:16:13 2018 From: jfbermann at gmail.com (Jim Bermann) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:16:13 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Wide grip Message-ID: http://wisegrip.com/product/wisegrip-comfort-grip/ Sent from my iPhone From chris at trombone.org Mon Jul 16 08:05:29 2018 From: chris at trombone.org (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 08:05:29 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 7/16/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 8:03 AM CDT on July 16, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. NEVER send payment by Western Union, Money Gram or other wire services or bank transfer!!!! If the prospective buyer or seller uses the terms MoneyGram, Western Union, courier, or "pick-up agent," it is a SCAM. Most scams involve an inquiry from someone wanting you to take a cashier's check or money order and quite often a badly-worded request to buy your item. Most of these e-mails show no knowledge of what they are buying. Be sure to get phone numbers, check references - take care when buying and selling online! If you have been victimized, you can contact the FTC toll-free at 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357) or use the complaint form at www.ftc.gov, or contact your local law enforcement agency. For additional information, please visit the OTJ Classifieds FAQ at: http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp Remember - if the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. OTJ Classifieds Frequently Asked Questions http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp If you have any questions or comments about the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds, please contact me at chris at trombone.org. Chris Waage -- OTJ Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/ From demko61 at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 21:51:18 2018 From: demko61 at gmail.com (Dave Demko) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 22:51:18 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Thoughts about the Mozart concerto? Message-ID: Not the Leopold Mozart Concerto for alto trombone, but Wolfgang Mozart's Bassoon Concerto, K.191, played on tenor. Anybody ever do this? Is it plausible? I heard this piece played live by bassoon virtuoso Carl Nitchie and was amazed. On paper, though, it doesn't look all that daunting. Maybe some of the trills wouldn't lie well? I'm interested in your opinions. From chris at trombone.org Mon Jul 23 08:07:43 2018 From: chris at trombone.org (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 08:07:43 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 7/23/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 8:05 AM CDT on July 23, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. NEVER send payment by Western Union, Money Gram or other wire services or bank transfer!!!! If the prospective buyer or seller uses the terms MoneyGram, Western Union, courier, or "pick-up agent," it is a SCAM. Most scams involve an inquiry from someone wanting you to take a cashier's check or money order and quite often a badly-worded request to buy your item. Most of these e-mails show no knowledge of what they are buying. Be sure to get phone numbers, check references - take care when buying and selling online! If you have been victimized, you can contact the FTC toll-free at 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357) or use the complaint form at www.ftc.gov, or contact your local law enforcement agency. For additional information, please visit the OTJ Classifieds FAQ at: http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp Remember - if the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. OTJ Classifieds Frequently Asked Questions http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp If you have any questions or comments about the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds, please contact me at chris at trombone.org. Chris Waage -- OTJ Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/ From demko61 at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 21:24:48 2018 From: demko61 at gmail.com (Dave Demko) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:24:48 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Thoughts about the Mozart concerto? In-Reply-To: <6F1722A5-21D1-412E-8153-498335B7CDFD@comcast.net> References: <6F1722A5-21D1-412E-8153-498335B7CDFD@comcast.net> Message-ID: James, Jonathan, Thanks for your insights about the Mozart concerto. After a closer look, I agree that the main challenge is more stylistic than technical. It's not a question of trying to sound like a bassoon (or like a cello for the Cello Suites), but sounding appropriate, with fidelity to the original. Fun stuff. Dave On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Holtfreter < jmholtfreter at comcast.net> wrote: > It is plausible for a good high school trombonist. I have taught the > first movement to high school- and college-level trombonists on numerous > occasions. > > Jonathan Holtfreter > Low Brass Instructor > Ann Arbor, MI > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 22, 2018, at 10:51 PM, Dave Demko via Trombone-l < > trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > > > > Not the Leopold Mozart Concerto for alto trombone, but Wolfgang Mozart's > > Bassoon Concerto, K.191, played on tenor. Anybody ever do this? Is it > > plausible? > > > > I heard this piece played live by bassoon virtuoso Carl Nitchie and was > > amazed. On paper, though, it doesn't look all that daunting. Maybe some > of > > the trills wouldn't lie well? I'm interested in your opinions. > > _______________________________________________ > > Trombone-l mailing list > > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > > From jfbermann at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 22:28:56 2018 From: jfbermann at gmail.com (Jim Bermann) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:28:56 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Thoughts about the Mozart concerto? In-Reply-To: References: <6F1722A5-21D1-412E-8153-498335B7CDFD@comcast.net> Message-ID: https://youtu.be/3olxyukdEFk Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 26, 2018, at 10:24 PM, Dave Demko via Trombone-l wrote: > > James, Jonathan, > Thanks for your insights about the Mozart concerto. After a closer > look, I agree that the main challenge is more stylistic than technical. > It's not a question of trying to sound like a bassoon (or like a cello for > the Cello Suites), but sounding appropriate, with fidelity to the original. > Fun stuff. > > Dave > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Holtfreter < > jmholtfreter at comcast.net> wrote: > >> It is plausible for a good high school trombonist. I have taught the >> first movement to high school- and college-level trombonists on numerous >> occasions. >> >> Jonathan Holtfreter >> Low Brass Instructor >> Ann Arbor, MI >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 22, 2018, at 10:51 PM, Dave Demko via Trombone-l < >> trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: >>> >>> Not the Leopold Mozart Concerto for alto trombone, but Wolfgang Mozart's >>> Bassoon Concerto, K.191, played on tenor. Anybody ever do this? Is it >>> plausible? >>> >>> I heard this piece played live by bassoon virtuoso Carl Nitchie and was >>> amazed. On paper, though, it doesn't look all that daunting. Maybe some >> of >>> the trills wouldn't lie well? I'm interested in your opinions. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Trombone-l mailing list >>> Trombone-l at trombonelist.org >>> http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From chris at trombone.org Mon Jul 30 02:21:54 2018 From: chris at trombone.org (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 02:21:54 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 7/30/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 2:19 AM CDT on July 30, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. NEVER send payment by Western Union, Money Gram or other wire services or bank transfer!!!! If the prospective buyer or seller uses the terms MoneyGram, Western Union, courier, or "pick-up agent," it is a SCAM. Most scams involve an inquiry from someone wanting you to take a cashier's check or money order and quite often a badly-worded request to buy your item. Most of these e-mails show no knowledge of what they are buying. Be sure to get phone numbers, check references - take care when buying and selling online! If you have been victimized, you can contact the FTC toll-free at 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357) or use the complaint form at www.ftc.gov, or contact your local law enforcement agency. For additional information, please visit the OTJ Classifieds FAQ at: http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp Remember - if the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. OTJ Classifieds Frequently Asked Questions http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp If you have any questions or comments about the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds, please contact me at chris at trombone.org. Chris Waage -- OTJ Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/