From gil.estes at gmail.com Sun Apr 1 07:43:30 2018 From: gil.estes at gmail.com (Gil Estes) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 08:43:30 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Collaborative Recording Message-ID: Anyone know of an easy to use, online, collaborative software package for recording? Have a 10 part trombone choir piece I would love to try this on. With video would be even better, just not sure with the technology is out there for this type of thing. Hope everyone has plenty of Easter gigs and that the Moravians had a good breakfast at 2 AM. Gil From emrose79 at sonic.net Sun Apr 1 17:30:08 2018 From: emrose79 at sonic.net (emrose79 at sonic.net) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 15:30:08 -0700 Subject: [Trombone-l] Celery Stalks at Midnight Message-ID: <019201d3ca08$ff3ea100$fdbbe300$@sonic.net> I'm looking for the Gerald Wilson arrangement of Celery Stalks at Midnight. So far, I've only located the Will Bradley and Les Brown versions. Does anyone know where I might find it? Thanks, Ed Sent from my Haag 45HV From emrose79 at sonic.net Sun Apr 1 20:23:01 2018 From: emrose79 at sonic.net (emrose79 at sonic.net) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 18:23:01 -0700 Subject: [Trombone-l] Celery Stalks at Midnight In-Reply-To: <000101d3ca19$21e0f360$65a2da20$@gmail.com> References: <019201d3ca08$ff3ea100$fdbbe300$@sonic.net> <000101d3ca19$21e0f360$65a2da20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01f801d3ca21$24a8f360$6dfada20$@sonic.net> Thanks, but: I suppose I should have said the chart. I have the recording, or at least I've heard it... Ed trombone-l at trombonelist.org Sent from my Haag 45HV -----Original Message----- From: Stan Brager Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 17:26 To: emrose79 at sonic.net Subject: RE: [Trombone-l] Celery Stalks at Midnight The Gerald Wilson arrangement was for a Tricky Lofton/Carmell Jones CD Brass Bag on a Mosaic CD MS-002. Originally recorded on Pacific Jazz LP PJ49 on March 26, 1962. Stan Stan Brager -----Original Message----- From: Trombone-l [mailto:trombone-l-bounces at trombonelist.org] On Behalf Of emrose79--- via Trombone-l Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 3:30 PM To: trombone-l at trombonelist.org Subject: [Trombone-l] Celery Stalks at Midnight I'm looking for the Gerald Wilson arrangement of Celery Stalks at Midnight. So far, I've only located the Will Bradley and Les Brown versions. Does anyone know where I might find it? Thanks, Ed Sent from my Haag 45HV _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l at trombonelist.org http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From chris at trombone.org Mon Apr 2 07:11:21 2018 From: chris at trombone.org (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 07:11:21 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 4/2/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 7:09 AM CDT on April 2, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. NEVER send payment by Western Union, Money Gram or other wire services or bank transfer!!!! If the prospective buyer or seller uses the terms MoneyGram, Western Union, courier, or "pick-up agent," it is a SCAM. Most scams involve an inquiry from someone wanting you to take a cashier's check or money order and quite often a badly-worded request to buy your item. Most of these e-mails show no knowledge of what they are buying. Be sure to get phone numbers, check references - take care when buying and selling online! If you have been victimized, you can contact the FTC toll-free at 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357) or use the complaint form at www.ftc.gov, or contact your local law enforcement agency. For additional information, please visit the OTJ Classifieds FAQ at: http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp Remember - if the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. OTJ Classifieds Frequently Asked Questions http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/faq.asp If you have any questions or comments about the Online Trombone Journal Classifieds, please contact me at chris at trombone.org. Chris Waage -- OTJ Classifieds http://www.trombone.org/classifieds/ From emandelucla at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 13:27:36 2018 From: emandelucla at gmail.com (Elisabeth Mandel) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 11:27:36 -0700 Subject: [Trombone-l] Urinetown (the musical) Message-ID: All: I was asked to recommend a student to perform with the college production of Urinetown. Of course the person with the books and my schedule don't line up at all and I've never played it. All I know is that its tenor/bass trombone and euph. Does anyone have more information about the challenges to this book? Is it OK on only F attachment, or does it really need a good bass player. Range? How good of a euph player? I'm happy to have my kids share the book if needed, but I'd like them to have fun. Thank you!! Liz -- Liz Mandel 760-419-4761 From harlan at feinsteins.net Fri Apr 6 14:16:09 2018 From: harlan at feinsteins.net (Harlan Feinstein) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 12:16:09 -0700 Subject: [Trombone-l] Urinetown (the musical) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This show, and this book, are great fun. I know folks have managed to do it all on one instrument, but there's a solid case for using 2-3 instruments. - There are sixteenth-note trills and what-not for the euphonium part, which wouldn't sound the same approximated on slide. (listen to "Cop Song") - There's stuff with prominent solotone lines, and if you tried to cut out tenor, I don't know how you'd make that work. (listen to "Mr. Cladwell") - On the other end, there's low cup mute stuff that bottoms out on tenor, in my experience. --Harlan On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Elisabeth Mandel via Trombone-l < trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > All: > > I was asked to recommend a student to perform with the college production > of Urinetown. Of course the person with the books and my schedule don't > line up at all and I've never played it. > > All I know is that its tenor/bass trombone and euph. > > Does anyone have more information about the challenges to this book? Is it > OK on only F attachment, or does it really need a good bass player. Range? > How good of a euph player? I'm happy to have my kids share the book if > needed, but I'd like them to have fun. > > Thank you!! > > Liz > > -- > Liz Mandel > 760-419-4761 > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > From jscot at ucalgary.ca Fri Apr 6 16:07:15 2018 From: jscot at ucalgary.ca (James L Scott) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 21:07:15 +0000 Subject: [Trombone-l] Fw: Urinetown (the musical) In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: ________________________________ From: James L Scott Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 3:06 PM To: Elisabeth Mandel Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Urinetown (the musical) I played a run of this show several years ago. Fun book! I played it on a large bore tenor, doubling on euphonium. I think you need the euphonium, for the color. At times it sounds like a tuba, and other times like a french horn and also like, well, a euphonium. The part did not actually say Bass Trombone anywhere, except on the title page where (bass) appeared after the word Trombone, almost like a question or suggestion. There are some trigger notes, but most of them are in parenthesis with an upper octave as an option. No matter what, there are a few tunes where a solid low range and full sound in that register is a plus, as well as some tunes that need high range and a brighter sound. A .547 did the trick for me. 2 players would work well - there were a couple of quick changes where I stayed on my previous instrument a bit longer than printed because I didn't think I could safely make the change where printed. The nice thing about this book, is that the composer/arranger really did a great job of getting a lot of colors out of a small group of players, and often uses the players on hand to approximate the sounds of instruments that aren't there (the clarinet does a surprisingly good imitation of trumpet fanfares, for instance). Whatever the player uses, they need to be able to change style/articulation/dynamics to make the right sound for each different number in the show. Everything in from Country to Mowtown to Les Mis... Enjoy! Jim Scott ________________________________ From: Trombone-l on behalf of Elisabeth Mandel via Trombone-l Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 12:27:36 PM To: Trombone-l at trombonelist.org Subject: [Trombone-l] Urinetown (the musical) All: I was asked to recommend a student to perform with the college production of Urinetown. Of course the person with the books and my schedule don't line up at all and I've never played it. All I know is that its tenor/bass trombone and euph. Does anyone have more information about the challenges to this book? Is it OK on only F attachment, or does it really need a good bass player. Range? How good of a euph player? I'm happy to have my kids share the book if needed, but I'd like them to have fun. Thank you!! Liz -- Liz Mandel 760-419-4761 _______________________________________________ Trombone-l mailing list Trombone-l at trombonelist.org http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org From art at awtriggs.com Fri Apr 6 16:21:29 2018 From: art at awtriggs.com (Art Triggs) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 21:21:29 +0000 Subject: [Trombone-l] Fw: Urinetown (the musical) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Having played it many times ... I like the music.... It?s a funny musical.... It isnt terribly difficult to play, and can be done on a large or medium bore tenor with f attachment . ( and Euphonium of course ) (The person playing the broadway album is doing just that. ) There are some quick mute changes, and a couple instrument changes that need to be done fast, they are do-able though. Like Jim mentioned there are work arounds. The Mr Cladwell number really needs a real solotone mute to sound right , a clear tone mute doesnt cut it. ( common substitute) Good luck on that though, solotone mutes havent been manufactured in a very long time. Good Luck! Art Triggs On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 17:08 James L Scott via Trombone-l < trombone-l at trombonelist.org> wrote: > > > > ________________________________ > From: James L Scott > Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 3:06 PM > To: Elisabeth Mandel > Subject: Re: [Trombone-l] Urinetown (the musical) > > > I played a run of this show several years ago. Fun book! > > > I played it on a large bore tenor, doubling on euphonium. I think you need > the euphonium, for the color. At times it sounds like a tuba, and other > times like a french horn and also like, well, a euphonium. > > > The part did not actually say Bass Trombone anywhere, except on the title > page where (bass) appeared after the word Trombone, almost like a question > or suggestion. There are some trigger notes, but most of them are in > parenthesis with an upper octave as an option. No matter what, there are a > few tunes where a solid low range and full sound in that register is a > plus, as well as some tunes that need high range and a brighter sound. A > .547 did the trick for me. > > > 2 players would work well - there were a couple of quick changes where I > stayed on my previous instrument a bit longer than printed because I didn't > think I could safely make the change where printed. > > > The nice thing about this book, is that the composer/arranger really did a > great job of getting a lot of colors out of a small group of players, and > often uses the players on hand to approximate the sounds of instruments > that aren't there (the clarinet does a surprisingly good imitation of > trumpet fanfares, for instance). Whatever the player uses, they need to be > able to change style/articulation/dynamics to make the right sound for each > different number in the show. Everything in from Country to Mowtown to Les > Mis... > > > Enjoy! > > > Jim Scott > > ________________________________ > From: Trombone-l on behalf of > Elisabeth Mandel via Trombone-l > Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 12:27:36 PM > To: Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > Subject: [Trombone-l] Urinetown (the musical) > > All: > > I was asked to recommend a student to perform with the college production > of Urinetown. Of course the person with the books and my schedule don't > line up at all and I've never played it. > > All I know is that its tenor/bass trombone and euph. > > Does anyone have more information about the challenges to this book? Is it > OK on only F attachment, or does it really need a good bass player. Range? > How good of a euph player? I'm happy to have my kids share the book if > needed, but I'd like them to have fun. > > Thank you!! > > Liz > > -- > Liz Mandel > 760-419-4761 > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > _______________________________________________ > Trombone-l mailing list > Trombone-l at trombonelist.org > http://trombonelist.org/mailman/listinfo/trombone-l_trombonelist.org > -- Art Triggs 914-819-8432 art at awtriggs.com www.awtriggs.com From emandelucla at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 16:35:41 2018 From: emandelucla at gmail.com (Elisabeth Mandel) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 14:35:41 -0700 Subject: [Trombone-l] Urinetown (the musical) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow! Thanks everyone. On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Elisabeth Mandel wrote: > All: > > I was asked to recommend a student to perform with the college production > of Urinetown. Of course the person with the books and my schedule don't > line up at all and I've never played it. > > All I know is that its tenor/bass trombone and euph. > > Does anyone have more information about the challenges to this book? Is it > OK on only F attachment, or does it really need a good bass player. Range? > How good of a euph player? I'm happy to have my kids share the book if > needed, but I'd like them to have fun. > > Thank you!! > > Liz > > -- > Liz Mandel > 760-419-4761 > -- Liz Mandel 760-419-4761 From chris at trombone.org Mon Apr 9 06:05:39 2018 From: chris at trombone.org (Chris Waage) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 06:05:39 -0500 Subject: [Trombone-l] OTJ Classifieds Update - 4/9/18 Message-ID: The Online Trombone Journal Classifieds - http://www.trombone.org/classifieds - have been updated as of 6:02 AM CDT on April 9, 2018. Buy/Sell Safely! Please use care when buying and selling online. 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I am looking for the bass trombone part for the Symphonic Scenario for Orchestra of Victory at Sea We, the Matthews Concert Band are doing the band version of Symphonic Scenario for Victory at Sea. I remember doing the orchestral arrangement about 25 years ago with the Imperial Symphony in Florida. and there were some differences in the parts, i'd like to compare. If someone can send me a PDF, i'd be grateful or if someone knows were i can buy a copy then i'll take that info. Pleas reply directly to me so as to not clutter up the list Thanks John Camenga Bass Trombone, Matthews Concert Band Matthews, FL From jfbermann at gmail.com Tue Apr 17 17:43:21 2018 From: jfbermann at gmail.com (Jim Bermann) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:43:21 -0400 Subject: [Trombone-l] Victory at Sea, bass trombone part. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84676788-3426-4332-B5D4-21AD4C08F9C1@gmail.com> Hi John, Unfortunately the Symphonic Scenario version is only available on rental. Jim Bermann Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:33 PM, John F. Camenga via Trombone-l wrote: > > Hey all > > it's been many years since i posted so my apologies if this is the wrong way to get something out. > > > I am looking for the bass trombone part for the Symphonic Scenario for Orchestra of Victory at Sea > > > We, the Matthews Concert Band are doing the band version of Symphonic Scenario for Victory at Sea. I remember doing the orchestral arrangement about 25 years ago with the Imperial Symphony in Florida. and there were some differences in the parts, i'd like to compare. If someone can send me a PDF, i'd be grateful or if someone knows were i can buy a copy then i'll take that info. 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