[Trombone-l] Bachelor thesis about bass trombone

Martin Hubel mhubel at gmail.com
Sat Apr 1 18:56:50 CST 2017


I played mainly bass trombone from 1972 to 1990. Starting in the 90s, I got
moved to first bone simply because 2 bass players joined the band during my
leave of absence.

For many pros, doubling is necessary as many shows, and this allows the
player to get paid more. Doubling does get me and others more gigs.
Ironically, I am known in some circles as a tenor player, and others as a
bass player.

Another important aspect is to understand your role in the section based on
the horn and part you have. Bass bone is a different mindset and approach
from playing lead, and being a section player is different again.

I try to play my best on both tenor and bass, and I do not compromise on
equipment. I mainly play a medium bore .508parhaps tenor with an 11C size
mouthpiece (Yamaha 891Z with Yamaha Al Kay MP). My bass is a Yamaha 830
with a Griego .75. I can switch easily between the 2 horns. I also have my
trusty old 42B if I need a large bore tenor.

Learning how to play easily, and subsequently to switch easily between bass
and tenor has been a journey. But that's another topic, or perhaps several
topics.

--Martin


Martin Hubel

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Price Taylor <pricetaylor at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I second that Earl. Doubling on bass has made me a better tenor player.
>
> I can't recommend it for everyone since some can't switch mouthpieces that
> easily - which is why Doug Elliott found a niche with making and selling
> screw-on rims.
>
> Price
>
> On Mar 29, 2017 7:57 AM, "Earl Needham" <earl.kd5xb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Kristine, there's one thing I always say --
> >
> > After spending some time on the Bass Trombone, which takes more air than
> > any other wind instrument that I know of, even tuba, a person feels like
> > SUPERMAN when going back to the tenor trombone.  It's just incredible.
> >
> > Earl Needham
> > Clovis, New Mexico USA
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Kristine Oppegaard <oppekri at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you so much for all your answers! I needed answer to the
> questions,
> > > but it was really nice of some of you to inform me about other works on
> > > this subject! Hope i'll pass the exam😘
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Kristine
> > >
> > > 2017-03-28 16:28 GMT+02:00 Daniel Walker <brasswalker at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Kristine,
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking this is more along the lines of a survey, rather than a
> > > > request for resources?
> > > >
> > > > To answer the questions:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Yes, it can have a negative affect on tenor playing in the short
> > term,
> > > > but this effect diminishes the longer you work on switching back and
> > > > forth.  Being primarily a tenor player, I find I have to do more work
> > > > transitioning to bass to achieve a workable sound than I have to do
> > when
> > > I
> > > > transition back to tenor.  Although it is possible to play both back
> to
> > > > back with acceptable results, for optimal performance I find I need a
> > day
> > > > or two to make the transition.
> > > >
> > > > 2) I play both because I can. Same reason for doubling on euphonium
> and
> > > > tuba.  Would not apply to viola. The more things you can do, the more
> > you
> > > > will have opportunities to play.  Also, it's fun!
> > > >
> > > > 3) I use the Six Notes as a foundation for locking in with the
> > equipment.
> > > > After that, the standard assortment of lip slurs and technical
> > > fundamentals
> > > > that you would do in any practice session.  I don't have a routine
> > > > specifically tailored to "making the switch".
> > > >
> > > > 4) YES
> > > >
> > > > 5) Well, yes, I work on the low range!  Lip slurs, Caruso excercises.
> > > It's
> > > > not so much different exercises, but what I do with the ones I always
> > > use.
> > > > Mostly, on bass I have to be very concious of not spreading the
> > > embouchure
> > > > too much.I  have also found that maintaining (or striving for) a
> solid
> > > low
> > > > register on the tenor carries over to the bass.  I don't do anything
> > > > fundamentally different chop wise (at least that's what I strive
> for!)
> > > so
> > > > it's mainly about getting comfortable with the different rim sizes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Kristine Oppegaard <
> oppekri at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi trombone friends!
> > > >> I am writing my bachelor thesis about learning bass trombone as a
> > tenor
> > > >> trombone player and i wonder if there is someone out there who has
> > gone
> > > >> through the same process and can answer some questions!
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Does it affect your tenor trombone playing negatively or
> positively
> > > to
> > > >> play bass trombone?
> > > >> 2. Why do you play both?
> > > >> 3. Do you do any particular excersises or adjustments when you
> change
> > > >> between the instruments?
> > > >> 4. Has it given you more gigs?
> > > >> 5. Do you do other types of ecxersises on the bass compared to the
> > > tenor?
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Kristine, student of Gothenburg Music academy
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